Tactical Helicopter Oil Raids

[Quang t legend]

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this is an illustration of an a level 218 failed attempt to protect oil from heli. 5000 oil lost in 1 minute!
it is not to say you should not try to protect your oil, because it will discourage some raiders especially when they are not full strength and you are not full oil, but it say very very hard to protect from heli raiders

 

[IzEagle]

Can you tell me how many TH and tactics are used by attacker for this raid?

 

[Quang t legend]

4 TH 2 decoy 12 motor 2 shooters. 1st run 2 TH 1 decoy failed because of traps, then lure the troops out, run 2nd run

 

[IzEagle]

That’s exactly the point, I can raid same amount of oil by my usual mp army with same training time (or even lower) and less oil cost! And usually use only one tactic in my oil raiding attacks. So I see no benefit in looting oil by TH from tough bases.

 

[Evningcome]

The funny part here is that you are posting a screenshot of someone who took 5000 oil with TH ,and you are making a conclusion "that's it 5000 oil per minute you can raid with this TH" ....

 

[JNation]

I honestly feel like the easiest fix for oil related issues is to just increase the storage capacity for oil wells. I feel like for farms and caravans you can go 2 days without collecting but oil wells only about 8 hours, and in events like these where your resource production is higher you would have to log on every 2-3 hours to get the max out of your oil wells. Maybe if we double or triple the storage capacity we could go longer without having to collect which would build more oil and also allow more oil to be looted given that you can take i believe up to 50% from wells. Considering that oil wells are most likely scattered throughout the base you would be more likely to do a full on attack which would also result in a peace treaty for that person too. And last but not least, it would also put more overall oil up for grabs on a base. Would it stop TH raids, probably not, but those people wouldn't have to hunt as much for oil and they could probably just raid the bases that leave their oil wells in really strange locations, like all together on the outside or on the edge of the map. And for abandon bases with no oil in refinery there would be plenty in the wells to justify an attack. This way we don't have to nerf any troops or change anything from a defensive/offensive stand point plus we give more potential oil to be looted for those atomic players and we increase the incentive for a full on attack so that we can maximize our gain.

 

[Gargantuar]

To train full raider army you would have to spend say half an hour . The same amount it will take for the TH combo specified up and I agree. But the point is that in one go you can train double. Say 8 TH and raiders/infantry. If one can login just every 2 hours and search for two bases he gets 10k oil (minus the cost of TH) . Two level 7 factories am talking . And while am just being in the lower end of oil gains (around 60/70k) , people have gained anywhere from 100k-150k in a day . There's one guy HTmk5 who did that and posted when the TH just came out. The viability is far better than 4-5 demolitions or full raider armies.

 

[Gargantuar]

The not so funny part is that you are willing to overlook the point he is trying to make , and nitpicking on few of the words which he might have written coz maybe he was over-excited.

 

[Evningcome]

I honestly think you should stop giving your opinion about something that is beyond your level and understanding

 

[Manifesto]

The important question is ''how much per hour?''
It might very well be ''5000 oil per minute'', except that you might only get 4 or 5 runs in an hour.

 

[Manifesto]

Great idea!

 

[Manifesto]

And maybe you should close your mouth and open your mind.
And digest what he said. More oil and better access to it is a good thing!

 

[JNation]

Oh Evningcome, bless us with your knowledge and wisdom through these darks nights of oil raiding. The children are starving and the village has seen its last day’s of fame. Guide us with your superior intelligence that has provided us with completely productive answers to our ever-growing problems. In these coldest days we need you most to solve all of our issues and only you alone can do this. To what do we sacrifice? A bunny, a fox, a dear, a boar, a bear or maybe even a turkey or wolf? Should we collect tea from the boat, or take food from the chest? Please let your light guide us as we scout from village to village to scavenge for food, money and black gold. During these tough times our lack of understanding may have angered you, and we beg for forgiveness. Show us the true wisdom and we will honor and worship you a 1000 times more.

 

[Manifesto]

Even if we're not worthy?

 

[JuDomines]

Don't touch the heli. Remove raiders from the game. Problem solved.

 

[Quang t legend]

Don't touch the heli. Remove raiders from the game. Problem solved.

No, profit is too big. They will drop infantry or even howitzer!
Not sure if any use ability to drop in war, just remove that!

It soon will force every AA-GA base to become a base to defense against heli, not good!

 

[Evningcome]

I really hate to repeat myself ,but the best defence is to stay above this raider zones which is around 1200+ medals ,yes I agree that you have your rights to stay in whatever medal range you want (so accept the pluses and minuses of your choice) Climbing from 200 medals to over 1200 is less then 1 hour work .Calculate by yourself the amount of oil that is needed to max your basic structures (oil related one) leave aside Amelia (tons of oil there) .I know that we all want when we attack to get awesome net gain ,and when we are attacked to have minimum lost .So plane ,use some strategy .Someone will say "but I don't have time for this" You want to log once per day for 30 minutes and being competitive ? I do not believe that ppl who made this game want this .You need to play or pay it's up to you if you want to be competitive.And of course if your plans are to stay low in medal range you need to make your base stronger Vs raiders/TH (how to make this ...plantly of options)

 

[Evningcome]

I apologize ,my comments really sounds a bit more rude that I wanted .I wanted to say: 'when you have no idea what TH is and how it works just don't post in topic related to them' your idea about oil well was a good one .Once again I didn't mean to be rude

 

[JNation]

Evningcome apology accepted. I agree with you that i dont have first hand experience using the TH. However, i do have first hand experience with being attacked by one, and i am really not here to complain about those that use that strategy. Heck, when i go atomic i might try it too! I know what i had posted would have seemed off topic at first glance and i understand that, but i dont believe punishing people who use that strategy was our best option as suggested by others. I also dont believe that increase resource production by an insane amount, in this case oil production, would have been the best option either. And thats why i suggested something different. I know i might have been a little out in left field making that suggestion, and quite possibly opening a different thread and making this suggestion there would have been a better way to bring up this idea. In which case i would be happy to do I think this entire topic is but a small part of a bigger issue, which is everything to do with oil. But like a said before, this might be better suited as its own thread as this one was more so gears toward the TH itself.

 

[IzEagle]

Read the new state of nation. they are going to nerf TH so this topic is officially closed.