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Speed up requests for armory

jcalver

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I believe that in order for us to try different strategies we need a way to develop our troops quicker, if you could add alliance speed ups like the ones for building, library and university but for armory it will help us upgrade our troops faster and to get a chance to try different things, you guys keep adding strategies but consider that by the time the season ends we are not even half way upgrading them
 

Harlems369th

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Within a week? I logged into the game in the evening after the end of the working day, took a survey, but at the end they answered me with an error, supposedly the 10k limit had already been reached.

And it’s not entirely clear why 10k? Considering that there are more than 130 thousand active players in the game. This is clearly visible during weekly events; the rankings are shown on the results page. If you don’t use speed ups, you’ll take up a place of about 100k+

Only 7% of players were surveyed and based on these results you are trying to bring updates to 100% of players, this is strange
It seems you misunderstood the first sentence, sorry about that.

To reiterate, the survey was planned to run for a week, but the 10k cap was hit before it could run for the full available time frame. We didn't expect so many responses so quickly, nor did we expect to hit the cap. The cap wasn't intentional and was a side effect of how the survey was distributed, we have since made changes to that distribution service to avoid this issue in the future.
 

Harlems369th

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Plus was raised with thick skin lol can dish it out so I can take it.
Weird cuz... it didn't seem like you took it that well on Discord.

"Whatever they cowards for not answering And chicken#### for bann" This you?

Just be aware that there is a difference between being helpful, and screaming at the check out aisle for the candy bar after already being given a response.
 

Seek

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The Poll was available across the globe and was scheduled to run for a week before hitting the 10k response cap. Responders were from US, UK, Brazil, Korea, and pretty well covered all time zones.

We asked about how players felt regarding buffs and nerfs with each season. Folks are relatively happy with them across the board from these results (nearly the same amount of the folks that felt there were just enough buffs/nerfs wanted even more), but we certainly want to improve that experience. We have some huge plans for Seasons in the future, and we hope to have something to share with you early next year. We've taken the feedback from this survey on board to ensure that the future of Seasons is as exciting and fun for all of our players as it possibly can be.
Fair enough it’s not huge deal to me either way truthfully. I was just thinking of the new players how it must be to work this or that just have be useless for entire season. Being new I could see bunch trying to switch with the season and not getting anywhere and getting frustrated and give up. I mean if I only have a fighter set up with mortar seige and now season makes them worthless and I just just spent 50 to 100 bucks getting kettle I think that would be really frustrating.

Just saying but by all means keep it way it is. Doesn’t hurt me truthfully others though it might hinder a good deal.

About all I have to say on this one lol No worries it won’t be like that Unmentionable List lol
 

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Weird cuz... it didn't seem like you took it that well on Discord.

"Whatever they cowards for not answering And chicken#### for bann" This you?

Just be aware that there is a difference between being helpful, and screaming at the check out aisle for the candy bar after already being given a response.
Well I felt that way for ban I saw as hiding from answering my question. Instead of just a pm or real answer of the question. It was two way street on this one.
 
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Harlems369th

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Well I felt that way for ban I saw as hiding from answering my question. Instead of just a pm or real answer of the question. It was two way street on this one.
Last thing I'll say is that you KNOW you've received an answer on this in several spaces across this forum. Here's one such response (https://forums.bighugegames.com/index.php?threads/battle-replays.30611/post-197121) Yes, it sucks that it's a long standing issue, we even answered your question from the AMA right in the opening paragraph. So no, we weren't going to repeatedly answer your question.

I will repeat myself one last time, we'll get you information when we have an update for you, asking nearly every day on the forum across multiple threads and off topic is NOT helpful.
 

King Crimson

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Well you were one of the players who asked or agreed with running a poll for seasons and whether or not players liked it. This may not have been the results you expected, and while 10,000 isn't the entire player base, it's a pretty large sample size, and only 10% of that 10k don't like seasons. It's clear disliking seasons isn't an opinion of the majority from this survey.
Nice swerve on the answer. I also like the seasons, as I've said many times - l never mentioned anything about 'liking' them in my comment.

Only 25% of 10k want more downtime between seasons, and 26% think they're too long. We won't be able to make everyone happy, but it would seem more are happy with the Seasons than some have initially thought. So we'll be working to make improvements since it appears that we're on the right track!
BHG can spin the numbers all they want but 25% negative doesn't leave a 75% majority - less than 50% voted positively on downtime or length. Leaving out the people who are non-committed doesn't automatically add strength to your argument.
If people can't be bothered voting then they can't be expected to make a difference - so ultimately it becomes BHGs decision and not the people's - but l can see how the numbers are used to justify your decisions.
 

nobodyknowsthetrouble

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That's how surveys and opinion polls work. You don't have to ask everyone, just a representative sample. Incidentally, this is also how you arrive at statements such as the majority of x are in favor of electric vehicles, nuclear power, etc. Not every citizen of the country has to be asked, as long as it is ensured that the sample group roughly corresponds to the average in terms of age, education, political orientation, etc.

As long as the percentages for “too long” and “too short” are almost the same, BHG seems to be doing a good job.

p.s. I didn't expect the result to be like this either
 

King Crimson

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No one is expecting 100% participation, I'm just pointing out that a 42% positive vibe is not an indication that the devs are necessarily on the right track - but numbers can obviously be manipulated as needed.

The only 'real' result is the percentage that liked the seasons, but l don't think that's ever been an issue.
 

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.As long as the percentages for “too long” and “too short” are almost the same, BHG seems to be doing a good job.
So if half those polled are against something (25% too long and 25% too short) but the remaining half like it, that means BHG is on the right track?
Not what l would call a vote of confidence.
 

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one of the problems with seasons is when things that are in the metagame are being heavily altered . Like this one... nerfing mortar range while at the same time boosting defence through parliament and library, led to so many lost stars in Offence. This greatly affected morale.

Another problem is that we forgot how the real game feels. In the past we had constants. We knew what to expect. Now we do not. We have to adapt more or less to these changes and it's not something we can or willing to do every season.
 

King Crimson

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Another problem is that we forgot how the real game feels. In the past we had constants. We knew what to expect. Now we do not. We have to adapt more or less to these changes and it's not something we can or willing to do every season.
This is why I'm a big fan of downtime between seasons. The seasons are great for people to try new troops, new metas without needing to grind a complimentary Uni or museum or council. When it's over we go back to our preferred combo(s)

ps: not only do we get the opportunity to go back to our preferred combo but we get to enjoy the buffs that we've already grinded or paid for. If we're able to grind other buffs during the seasons that's a bonus.
 
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astero

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if you could add alliance speed ups like the ones for building, library and university but for armory it will help us upgrade our troops faster and to get a chance to try different things
Getting back to the OP's suggestion, I believe it would be a good idea to add Armory research to alliance speed-ups. We have university+library+construction speedups so armory would be a welcome addition to make it 4/4.
 
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