Nexon can you help us understand your stance on war issues?

[Žvaigždės]

glory and medals are the dumbest part of this game. so many seem to be all about it, to me it's epitome of pointless. You out spent someone and have a bigger army, congrats, you got "bragging rights." Because that's 95% of it.

glory in my opinion is useless so far, but medals are really nice. before I stopped playing 8 months ago I was at 3,500 medals and enjoyed every bit of that 344k gold and food bonus per battle.. not even counting the resources gained from normal battle. I never spent a penny on the game, just took dedication. any ways, everyone enjoys the game their own special way, some like to chat all day and relax, others go for medals, glory etc. it's simply personal choice; these people are just striving to make the game a bit better with their concerns :<

 

[ccfoo]

I agree, nexon doesn't seem to care, or even seem to approve of your actions by granting you that exclusive interview and glorifying your alliance on Facebook. But that doesn't make it "right" though, especially for alliances on the receiving end of your so called "strategy".

Anyway, after countless and pointless posts after posts, I wonder what makes this game fun for you? Beating opponents with a handicap against yours a hundred times and counting? If I play a game or a sport, I would prefer to play with someone near my equal, cause whether did I win or lose, the challenge and satisfaction of victory makes it fun. But its your own preference, some of us like to win against kids all the time and brag over it.

I would dare to say that this game will continue on its downhill trend if nothing is addressed in the OP's post. The truth is most of us aren't bothered by leadership board or care about your alliance, we are just pushing for fair plays which makes the game fun in the first place. Getting beaten by opponents we can barely touch, or losing just cause of a glitch in war %, isn't fun at all. It only serves to demoralize many who will eventually leave the game to greener pastures elsewhere.

 

[phil_dee]

War has very little to do with why I play this game; consider that I (and perhaps you, and certainly others) had already been HARDCORE players for up to a year before wars began here. We get all we can eat in multiplayer attacks, wars are a bonus and really just a way to get loot...the leaderboard is not so important, it just happens that Nexon custom-built it for our technique.

 

[phil_dee]

I mean, we didn't even know about the glory contest at ALL (or the alliance spotlight/interview jawn) until the crowns landed in our accounts.

 

[S_How]

Phil although I've seen it done with 20+, 13 is still a massive amount and again serves only to manipulate the matchup so that your top folks can make uncontested 5* hits on all attacks, and are faced with no teams that will be able to cover hits on all your abnormally advanced defenses. It's a full third of your lineup stacked with bases that serve no purpose other than to make your competition easy for the others.

Let's do some napkin math on it. If you assign the 13 Iron Age bases a 1, and the 27 global bases a 7 (I think there are seven ages difference here right?)...and average it out it comes to somewhere around 5. An early EA base following the same system. There will be slight variances of course, that EA team may have a few industrial and 1-2 early global....but unless they follow the same formula of manipulating the matchmaking system they will have absolutely zero chance of being able to cover your non Iron Age bases, your team will have zero challenge 5* every one of them with ease, and there will be zero risk of loss to your team.

 

[phil_dee]

That math may apply to some of the others, but for us it should be somewhat different--we have only one maxed Global player, only eleven Global players total, about as many Classical Age players as Iron Age players, etc.--all of this adds up to wars being easier for us, but they aren't quite as described (especially with regard to the abnormally advanced defenses). I mean, I am this roster's #4 player, but have only been Global for four weeks or so and my walls are at level 9.

 

[phil_dee]

For additional perspective--consider that, at the moment (or only three or four days prior) when we sat atop the glory leaderboard, got that interview thing, etc., I was #1 on our war roster and was still Industrial Age. [edit: I was wrong about the IA part, my upgrade completed about six days before that]

 

[The_boogs]

Lol I'm glad you said it Phil... And it just so happens those five to ten "self appointed" arbiters all tend to reside from one or two (mainly one) alliance!

As for community policing - it is not the duty of these five to ten to police the game... When Nexon publish a standardised set of rules to follow regarding wars, I for one will adhere to it - tactics are tactics, some good some bad, but tactics none the less.

 

[Vixen]

I don't care about glory... I don't care about medals... I care about game enjoyment and currently we are not getting any due to the mismatch in war!!

Nb4powerup - please keep this issue on the top of the priority list!!!

 

[S_How]

I don't care about glory... I don't care about medals... I care about game enjoyment and currently we are not getting any due to the mismatch in war!!

Nb4powerup - please keep this issue on the top of the priority list!!!

Totally agree, would be really nice to see some very quick action taken to prevent these mismatches, since they are a miserable experience. We just tried moving back up into 40v40, and our very first match we are against RUnion who has high global on top, several more advanced than our top players, and the bottom 10 stacked with Medieval-Classical mostly undeveloped bases. Fortunately it seems like they arent too coordinated so we will have a shot at beating this one, but the last several have been simply impossible because we didnt have enough global offenses to cover the 3x max global defenses compared to our offenses.

This now brings it to 7 of the last 9 alliances we've faced at 40 or 45 using low age base stacking to manipulate Nexon's matchmaking. Nexon surely it cannot be your intention to have such significant mismatches - the question is will you do anything about it before the damage is even greater to the community.

 

[Vixen]

Nexon surely it cannot be your intention to have such significant mismatches - the question is will you do anything about it before the damage is even greater to the community.

Hear Hear!!!!

 

[S_How]

Heck Phil, I suppose we wont agree on any of the mathematical examples lol. You can nit pick it all you want or distract from the key facts - but it will not change the fact that Iron/Undeveloped bases are being added with only one purpose - to ensure that the top end offenses are absolutely unchallenged by much weaker teams, making player skill or team coordination simply not matter, because none of it can overcome the significant age advancement gaps. It removes virtually all risk from the matchup process.

 

[phil_dee]

Maybe it removes all matchmaking risk for three or four alliances in this game, but for the rest of us it is just a hedge against being overpowered. Our last win was only by four points, I think (though we've had our share of dominant games as well).

 

[Prodigal Clint]

great comment

 

[Prodigal Clint]

Could we possibly get an official Nexon stance on these Nb4powerup ? This is a massive issue plaguing the community, killing the balance of the best feature in the game, war. Frustrations are mounting, as I'm sure you can tell by the other posts that you are having to close, so can you give us something to chew on so to speak... It's getting worse by the day, and like the other big issues, it's EXTREMELY frustrating for the community to be ignored on this....so back to the OP issues and questions, is this system working as intended? Are options being explored to remedy the stacking issue, if so, what are they?>

There was nothing regarding glory in the August State of the Nations as I had been hoping.This issue is not going to go away silently, it will only get worse, and non-global age players will QUICKLY start abandoning the game because wars simply arent fun for them anymore. Players=Dollars

... Please, we need some information to pass down to the community on this...

 

[Vixen]

Well said Prodigal Clint

 

[Ravenlord]

Players = Dollars. Well, if that's the case, while you're waiting to hear from Nexon, go buy yourself a few Genghis Khans .....

 

[Prodigal Clint]

im actually holding out for the 3x gathering/training/animal blessing super combo pack for $5.99

 

[S_How]

I know this thread has spoken about the iron age stacking more than anything else, but dont want focus to be taken away from the other issues either. They ALL need to be fixed. Stacking probably hurts the majority of teams....but the top teams are also very disproportionately hurt by Stalemates, most everyone feels the influence glory rank has on glory reward is broken at best, and it sure would be nice to recognize teams in some way for medals.

It is disheartening not to have more information from Nexon yet. To be honest, its really weeks/months after all of these issues have been raised and it really reflects poorly by giving the appearance of avoiding issues (Even if things are going on behind the scenes).

 

[Ravenlord]

Ooh - count me in for that!!