My final thought to BHG on the subject

[JuggernautJ]

I'll add my name to the list of those protesting the 3+ lines of the same ability on artifacts.
And I'm not OK with the mythical/legendary showcase stuff, either.

Just as with our (American and much of the world) politics, the people who are going to prosper are the rich and the cheaters.
I'm vet level 10 (but I will never make 11 because I no longer spend money on DomiNations) but I wonder how a Free-to-Play player is supposed to, in any way, compete with someone who can buy all Legendary and Mythical Artifacts available and use all of them at the same time in War...

To say nothing of the people who use a cheat App/Server to roll thousands of artifacts keeping only those that fit the new 3-5 line system.

How is anyone going to feel when they go to war and encounter a museum stuffed with 5 line artifacts and 50 Legendries??
My hard-earned but suddenly paltry museum is going to be absolutely useless in very short order.

And what is BHG going to do when museums with artifacts and legendries like that start to show up in an impossibly short amount of time?

 

[Funny]

already update?

 

[Dvicious]

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already update?

To test I just crafted only 20 artifacts and also already got one with three of the same lines. I haven’t had any new game updates.

 

[LuSt]

@Harlems369th @TheWise @GO Mod @Davis - The Emissary

Multiple reports of artifact already changed. You announced that this wouldn’t go into effect until next week. Our only saving grace is that it’s Main Hall event so nobody can get War Artifacts at the moment.

This thread is titled “My final thought…” and I fully anticipated it to be my last statement while everyone else chimed in, but yet again you have lied to the players.

Disappointing, but not unexpected given the current relationship you have with the community.

Congratulations, you’ve opened up Pandoras Box… good luck

 

[Dvicious]

To test I just crafted only 20 artifacts and also already got one with three of the same lines. I haven’t had any new game updates.

And another in the next 20 lol. So maybe these aren’t going to be so rare. That’s a lot of lightning in a bottle

 

[JuggernautJ]

Didn't this whole kerfuffle hit stride when BHG said "you'd always been able to do that" in response to people pulling 3 & 4 line artifacts for Assault Vehicles?

As I recall BHG intentionally allowed us to craft 3+ lines for Assault Vehicles (in the last update) as a way to "balance" out that underused and under-achieving unit.
If those two examples are assault vehicles I think they're "working as intended."
If they're something else then yes, there's a problem.

 

[JuggernautJ]

Well... so much for that theory...

 

[BaseyMcBaseface]

Yup. 6th craft of x5 and this comes up. Best they can say at this point is "we are incompetent" for this to come out now and not even address the community before doing it.

 

[SolarRad75]

BHG doesn't want their money and players, I guess. Since the update already rolled out, expect even angrier players. I won't be surprised if this company shows up on a news article later for critical blunders.

 

[Flasher]

I’ll throw in my $.02.

Please just go back to the status quo. Showcase is cool. Mythicals are alright, but the museum line thing is out of control.

Make the hurting stop.

 

[Zylyze]

Well....
Everything had been says already.
I agree with @LuSt and all other post ,on : DON'T RELEASE THIS MUSEUM UPDATE.

Changing the whole craft system isn't a really good idea.
Maybe the code was broken (you should reconsider who hiring as dev) but it was working. There is a sort of balance , dont ruin it.
-Cheaters will have some insane 5 lines bomber hp/DPS ....a perfect off or def artifact with 5 lines useful, today is really rare. With all 15% even less! And we can see some teams with a lot of those perfect artifacts. Don't tell me they won't be able to do the same and would have some weapon 5 lines bombers DPS or armor 5 lines bombers PV !!!

-The show case , the same....the possibility of put every artefact you have!!! INSANE
Why don't you start with 1 or 2 artifact to expose? To see how it works
It will be just frustrating for all players who have throw away some (crappy) artifact . The best exemple is the red engine, 1 line useful, nobody used it now with the showcase it will be a good artifact for just this one line??

-Please don't make time wars like heli meta again. It was just annoying and frustrating for def players who couldn't defend and couldn't make chronos.
It's already difficult for def players to 5stars an automat 450 and even if they got the 5S the chronos won't be enough.
You re about to kill all the fun for defensive players.

I used to organize some 50 vs 50 community event (with my buddy dpk) and it's more and more difficult to gather the 100 players. The lat event was 30vs 30...

You CANNOT let players go away, I think you no longer have this luxury.

 

[Steppenwolf]

Of the 60 alliances protesting the update, 20 are "side alliances," 5 of which consist of only one player with multiple accounts, and almost all are in the top 100.
I and other alliances outside the top 100 are happy with the update. There's something to do again, which is great. Our world wars are and will remain varied, and we like to spend money now and then.

 

[Zylyze]

Of the 60 alliances protesting the update, 20 are "side alliances," 5 of which consist of only one player with multiple accounts, and almost all are in the top 100.
I and other alliances outside the top 100 are happy with the update. There's something to do again, which is great. Our world wars are and will remain varied, and we like to spend money now and then.

Of course the protesting alliance are in the top 100.
But if you are happy with or without the update (and it's your right, I'm ok whit that) you won't see any matter that we expose our point.

 

[Steppenwolf]

Of course the protesting alliance are in the top 100.
But if you are happy with or without the update (and it's your right, I'm ok whit that) you won't see any matter that we expose our point.

SAME

 

[LuSt]

Of the 60 alliances protesting the update, 20 are "side alliances," 5 of which consist of only one player with multiple accounts, and almost all are in the top 100.
I and other alliances outside the top 100 are happy with the update. There's something to do again, which is great. Our world wars are and will remain varied, and we like to spend money now and then.

The pure ignorance in this entire statement is astounding…

Let’s break it down…

•20 side alliances? You mean… part of the massive exile family that have more members than a single alliance can hold? Yea I’d say they’re fairly prominent and contribute a large financial benefit to this game.

•5 of which that has one player with multiple accounts? How is this confirmed? Or is this some conspiracy theory of yours let me tell you… if some guy has 5 alliances filled with multiple accounts in the top 100 then he must be an Arabian prince emptying the treasury to fund those accounts.

•You and other alliances are happy with the update… where are these people? Haven’t seen many speak up. I sure as shit dont see those alliances changing their names to We Love 12.20 in support of it…

•“There’s something to do again” this is the most ignorant foolish statement of all, and the entire point of the frustration for players. Congratulations… you can make a new museum that will give you the same end result you currently have now. Instead of 2 buffs you can have 5, meanwhile defenders will be able to also have 5 invading buffs instead of 2.

2-2=zero just like 5-5=zero, there is literally no benefit to this change.

Oh, you’re bored? Perfect! Just delete your museum and start from scratch. That’s basically what this is anyway, hit reset and spend the next few years working your way right back to where you are now. It’s like being tired of your $100 bill, so you’re thrilled to trade it in for the exciting opportunity to slowly collect twenty $5 bills over time. What a deal.

•Lastly… so glad to hear that you and other alliances outside top 100 like the update and all spend just a little bit of money. That will surely keep BHG’s revenue flowing without the contribution of their biggest spenders. Let’s keep in mind there are plenty alliances outside of top 100 that are pissed as well though, or don't even realize what’s about to happen and will end up pissed off.

Sheep like you is why companies take advantage of customers. No critical thinking, only what’s right in front of you.

 

[Steppenwolf]

The pure ignorance in this entire statement is astounding…

Let’s break it down…

•20 side alliances? You mean… part of the massive exile family that have more members than a single alliance can hold? Yea I’d say they’re fairly prominent and contribute a large financial benefit to this game.

•5 of which that has one player with multiple accounts? How is this confirmed? Or is this some conspiracy theory of yours let me tell you… if some guy has 5 alliances filled with multiple accounts in the top 100 then he must be an Arabian prince emptying the treasury to fund those accounts.

•You and other alliances are happy with the update… where are these people? Haven’t seen many speak up. I sure as shit dont see those alliances changing their names to We Love 12.20 in support of it…

•“There’s something to do again” this is the most ignorant foolish statement of all, and the entire point of the frustration for players. Congratulations… you can make a new museum that will give you the same end result you currently have now. Instead of 2 buffs you can have 5, meanwhile defenders will be able to also have 5 invading buffs instead of 2.

2-2=zero just like 5-5=zero, there is literally no benefit to this change.

Oh, you’re bored? Perfect! Just delete your museum and start from scratch. That’s basically what this is anyway, hit reset and spend the next few years working your way right back to where you are now. It’s like being tired of your $100 bill, so you’re thrilled to trade it in for the exciting opportunity to slowly collect twenty $5 bills over time. What a deal.

•Lastly… so glad to hear that you and other alliances outside top 100 like the update and all spend just a little bit of money. That will surely keep BHG’s revenue flowing without the contribution of their biggest spenders. Let’s keep in mind there are plenty alliances outside of top 100 that are pissed as well though, or don't even realize what’s about to happen and will end up pissed off.

Sheep like you is why companies take advantage of customers. No critical thinking, only what’s right in front of you.

Wow, someone is clearly obsessed. Your answers are highly ignorant and beyond argument.

 

[Seek]

Of the 60 alliances protesting the update, 20 are "side alliances," 5 of which consist of only one player with multiple accounts, and almost all are in the top 100.
I and other alliances outside the top 100 are happy with the update. There's something to do again, which is great. Our world wars are and will remain varied, and we like to spend money now and then.

Only way to know 5 alliances are owned by same person with multi account is being a member staff coming in here to troll or just a tool

 

[Mizantrop]

You ennoble me, thank you

So, now is clear: you are a troll.

 

[Steppenwolf]

Only way to know 5 alliances are owned by same person with multi account is being a member staff coming in here to troll or just a tool

I don't really have anything more to say. I'm too insignificant. But for you: Take a look at "H8ful Outlaws," for example. Just so it's clear that I'm not just saying anything. Those who care know it's true. And for those who keep talking and talking here: I'm too insignificant. )

 

[LuSt]

I don't really have anything more to say. I'm too insignificant. But for you: Take a look at "H8ful Outlaws," for example. Just so it's clear that I'm not just saying anything. Those who care know it's true. And for those who keep talking and talking here: I'm too insignificant. I

Awww look at you playing the victim after talking shit and lying to push your agenda.

I thought you said 5 alliances… you literally mentioned 1 alliance name that we can’t even find cause so many renamed to No Update 12.20.