My rush to CWA...

[BeerMan]

I don't believe I've seen a global base with more than 4K oil, so maybe there is some kind of reduction for CWA vs global. AA bases seem to have full loot, however.

 

[SharkyFinn]

As an AA attacking GAs, these are from today without using generals, mercenaries or any kind of tactics.

 

[Dvicious]

i think its -10% for one age down and -50% loot for 2 ages down and it just shows up as what loot is available when you scout. It is not applies after the battle

 

[Dvicious]

nice loots! how much % does your museum add?

 

[SharkyFinn]

Thanks!

46% All Resources Looted
14% Gold Looted

 

[oddin]

I attacked only 3 times today, during the morning and then a strong guy puts me in peace for 17 hours. The three attacks were as below. Do you see me having a loot problem?? Guess not! hahaha

 

[Dvicious]

wowza. nice!

 

[Imaera]

... I'm still not convinced there's a negative penalty...

There is a penalty, i noticed that in friendly challenges. My AA account gets more loot than my main CWA account from the same base. The penalty is applied to the available loot.

 

[pckrn]

I think its just like war loot. If you attack 2 ages down theres a ~50% loot penalty. Do you get those big loots on global bases too manifesto?

i came across a global with 850k gold in available loot. if this 50% penalty is true, that would mean there was really 1.7 million gold there? i really cant believe that.

 

[yemen]

I'm pretty sure the penalty applies to resource storage buildings (mills / markets / refineries) and not to production buildings (farms / caravans / wells), and that it is less than 50%. Because I have not seen the loot penalty as being that big. There is one, but it doesn't really seem to make a huge difference.

 

[Dvicious]

Hard to tell exactly now with all the museum bonuses in play.

 

[LordStark263AC]

Well that's a relief. Thanks for confirmation.

 

[LordStark263AC]

Well that's a relief. Thanks for confirmation.

 

[SharkyFinn]

I attacked only 3 times today, during the morning and then a strong guy puts me in peace for 17 hours. The three attacks were as below. Do you see me having a loot problem?? Guess not! hahaha

Nice job, but I think you're missing a little of our points. I don't think anyone was saying you can't gain loot at CWA. I think those of us who remained at AA are saying that we don't need to go to CWA to get loot, because we're finding plenty of loot in AA. In addition to finding plenty of loot, we also don't need to wait as long for our armies to cook, because we don't need to use generals or tactics. In one of your attacks, you used 7 decoys and lost both generals. It takes me 45 minutes to cook just 1 deco, so even if I used a tactics blessing, it'd take me nearly 2.5 hours to recover the tactics from that attack. Without needing to use generals or tactics, we're able to execute many more attacks in a shorter timeframe. I had just grabbed some attacks from that day, but you'll notice that the first group were executed during a 20-minute period and the second group within a 10-minute period. I also had other attacks in these time period that I didn't bother screen capping and posting, because they were below the 1 million loot threshhold, but all taken into account, they add up to millions. I typically do 4 or 5 attacks during a bathroom break, and a dozen or more during lunchtime.

So, while I credit you for finding your niche in CWA, I haven't experienced any downside whatsoever being at AA and maxing my base. Besides, as Agamemnon999 and I both had said, our main reason for staying at AA was for the events, not because there isn't loot at CWA. The event tiers are higher at CWA than at AA and needing to wait longer between attacks is just going to make it even harder.

 

[oddin]

SharkyFinn I was misunderstood. I perfectly understand why you stayed AA and it is perfectly logical. All I wanted is to show is that even if there is an oil penalty against global players then it is of no consequence because there are so many rushed atomic age players with bigger oil storage that will give you easily 6-9K oil.
As for the events being harder....That was the only thing that made me think twice about going to cwa. I dared and we will see how it goes...
All 3 attacks took place within 15 mins if you believe it! For some reason, I got free retrain TWICE. Maybe one that I havent used the previous day and one for the next day that had came. You can see that the retrain button has the camera icon on it after my 2 attacks. I paid and waited for my army only after the third attack. Guess that I was lucky! That is why I over reacted with tactics (since I don't have airplanes and mercenaries) since I really wanted the loot

 

[SharkyFinn]

Nice! Getting the instant training back-to-back is pretty great, too.

 

[pckrn]

because we don't need to use generals or tactics. In one of your attacks, you used 7 decoys and lost both generals. It takes me 45 minutes to cook just 1 deco, so even if I used a tactics blessing, it'd take me nearly 2.5 hours to recover the tactics from that attack. Without needing to use generals or tactics, we're able to execute many more attacks in a shorter timeframe.

cwa and aa have the same pool of targets. whether you use generals and tactics or not is a difference in personal styles of play, and it is not a difference in cwa vs aa.

for example, im in cwa and for farming i rarely ever use tactics, generals are for clean up only, and never use mercs. i dont use training blessing either. empire3 league, and i loot about 24k oil in 30 min with +24% all rss loot from museum

 

[oddin]

After my super rush to reach 220 for cwa durin summer of the ages, I was at a disadvantage but that wasn't really too much of an issue. I had a plan to follow and it was working really well. I was investing in certain troop combos that would help in battles like apc, bazookas etc. NOW and after the rebalance, all this planning and effort went to the recycle bin. Just like that within a day! Now i maybe have to invest in assault vehicles, helicopters and HT which are way behind. If I had known about all those changes then I would have stayed in atomic.

Nexon made it easy for us to advance ages and then made the game a lot harder. But who am I to judge? Just a player...Nexon knows better!!! right?

 

[pckrn]

to be fair, those are separate problems. you would have the same problem even if you stayed in atomic, and theres no disadvantage because you can still attack globals.

even if i had known about rebalance i still would have recommended going to cwa

 

[oddin]

yes it is true that i can still attack globals but it is way harder and with more loses. This basically allows no more than 3 full attacks per day. On the other hand, I am being attacked a lot more by raiders/TH/eng combos