My rush to CWA...

[oddin]

Hi everyone,

Maybe this post will be of some help to you guys/girls...

2 months ago I was at Global Age level 210 and I was thinking that now with the Summer of the Ages, it would be great if I could maximize my offense. I was tired in WW not to 5 star atomic bases just because my army was global. So, I created a spreadsheet to find which upgrades give the most XP per worker per day. Then I created a timetable for each worker and started calculating the total XP needed to climb from 210 to 220 and more importantly IF I had the time to actually get to 220 before the 12th of August where the town center was instantly upgraded.

This is my base on the 18th of June:
https://imgur.com/kOrDBXk

This is the XP table I used to understand which upgrades will help me to get more XP per worker/day
https://imgur.com/oO8IIRU

This is the sheet with the worker allocation in detail. Open it in a separate tab to full screen it:
https://imgur.com/5dIriVR

And this is my base now:
https://imgur.com/ZWZRncs

Although it seemed hard to climb the levels, eventually, it proved easier (with a bit of planning). The reduction in prices helped a lot and I managed to double upgrade Armory, Airport and Factory.
Who needs atomic age when we can go straight from global to CWA?? Supersonic Fighters MK6, here I come!!!

Have in mind that my looting capability is the same as before. Enemies attack me with the same frequency as before. I still try to find a single disadvantage to my rush through atomic age...

Thanks for reading my post
Ulysses (aka oddin)

TL DR: if you want fast XP, upgrade farms+caravans, mills+markets and traps. These are the best!

 

[LordTywin242AC]

I was 209 Global before SOA, I couldn't resist and went up to Atomic. No regrets. In 3 weeks during half price sales I've upgraded/ing 2 Heavy Tank Bunkers, Factory twice (I'm gonna have Tactical Helicopters), Armory, Airstrip and Missle Silo. Just like you mentioned above I still get attacked more or less the same but my defensive troops looking great already. My plan is to stay in Atomic until I pretty much max out all of the defensive buildings and troops. I think the highest Atomic I've seen was 242. I wanna be that guy!!!

On the down side when I completed stage 1 of Pentagon it did not register the XP. Well that's a bummer. CS told me they working on it but have no resolution yet.

 

[oddin]

1. the xp bug with the wonders has happened to me and lord stark and angel as well. known issue...
2. 242 max level for atomic sounds wrong (although I dont know for sure). I always believed it went much higher
3. Why you didn't take advantage of the rush and go cwa since nothing changes between the two ages but you can have much better offensive capability? I am in the same spot like you do but i have upgraded twice armory and aircraft in addition. This means that from now on, only unit upgrades will bother me...

 

[BeerMan]

The highest Atomic I've seen is level 246, but his base is not maxed so he could easily fly past 250. I see no reason why anyone would want to do that, however.

 

[oddin]

indeed BeerMan . It was already a bit too much being global 211. There is no reason to max everything before going further.

 

[LordTywin242AC]

I think I have an OCD. I was 182 Industrial pretty much maxed out. And it took a lot of persuading to leave Global, I was gonna upgrade farms and caravans too. Sad, I know...

 

[LordTywin242AC]

wrathchild_78 Armory can be upgraded twice?

 

[AbbyVille]

The highest Atomic I've seen is level 246, but his base is not maxed so he could easily fly past 250. I see no reason why anyone would want to do that, however.

True. I couldn’t wait for the rush. I miss calculated the date by a week and finally sucked it up and created my own rush with some crowns . I was at 245 not maxed out on any economic buildings and a few defensive buildings. I was at the point where my resources were maxed out and attacking was just pointless. But I still needed stars to complete the legendary challenge.

The main reason for not completing my defensive buildings upgrade is because i don’t get attack very often. It’s been months since someone 5 Star my base and/or launch a full blown attack. I get a almost hourly medal dropping attack or some raiding attempts. I don’t know how many xp points were added when I moved up but as soon as I got to CWA I was 248 and now I’m 252.

 

[Agamemnon999]

So I am a Level 238 Atomic and I chose to NOT go to CWA. I thought about it but ultimately decided against it. I will probably upgrade in another 6 months or so and I would imagine I will be in the 250+ range by then. I won't wait to upgrade resource buildings probably since I need an additional 6 months to max those.

Why did I not upgrade?

1) Better loot, you don't get a negative loot modifier (or as big of one) when you attack Atomic or Global bases. Plus I get a bonus multiplier attacking CWA bases.
2) I still have lots of walls to do, I know I have been slacking
3) Events are easier to complete. When this was just buildings it didn't matter, but with the occasional legendary artifact this feels more important.
4) I want to spend time on University upgrades - for example finish Amelia while Oil is really easy to get
5) I have lots of general upgrades to do - again easier to do when oil is so plentiful and I don't have other research hogging the two slots.

The cons are my offense suffers from not having CWA troops. I guess if I cared about war a ton that would matter. As it is, I have a life with kids and while I play daily, I don't have time to grind it out. I prefer easy loot and constant upgrades. The spreadsheet I made available shows me still needing over 2000 citizen days to max out my defense. So if I split my dudes between buildings and university, I should be ready in early February. Plus, I still have a lot of university offense to research so it isn't like I'm standing still offensively.

Lastly, while I stay in the 2000-2400 medal range, most people pass my base up even when maxed with oil. I believe the primary reason is most CWA get a negative loot multiplier making it less attractive relative to effort. I get 5 starred occasionally but typically cause some damage. For Atomic players and Global players, the payoff is there, but I'm a tough nut to crack defensively.

We all have different approaches to the game. I like to max my bases before moving on. Obviously if you value offense, you would take a different approach.

 

[oddin]

once when I went atomic (which i crowned it) and twice for cwa which is still building

 

[LordStark263AC]

Twice in CWA huh? Interesting. Good to know.

 

[oddin]

well I played the game for 2 years with the same logic like you guys do. Max almost everything before the next age comes...But now I feel that things changed. Having a better offense is preferable since defense is harder. At least that is how i see it. Is there any other way to deal with more defensive buildings + silo + tougher walls + selassie?
On another note, just for your information, oil looting is not harder in cwa. I still have half my army in global age and I can loot with no problem. Infact, there is so much loot that I raid 5-6K oil easily. And on a daily basis, I will take from one base 10K+ which is superb. All that without having mercenaries, airplanes and factories since they are upgrading atm. When I was global, I didn't take THAT much oil that often.

If there is a limit on oil for cwa players, then it is not even noticeable.

 

[SharkyFinn]

So I am a Level 238 Atomic and I chose to NOT go to CWA. I thought about it but ultimately decided against it. I will probably upgrade in another 6 months or so and I would imagine I will be in the 250+ range by then. I won't wait to upgrade resource buildings probably since I need an additional 6 months to max those.

Why did I not upgrade?

1) Better loot, you don't get a negative loot modifier (or as big of one) when you attack Atomic or Global bases. Plus I get a bonus multiplier attacking CWA bases.
2) I still have lots of walls to do, I know I have been slacking
3) Events are easier to complete. When this was just buildings it didn't matter, but with the occasional legendary artifact this feels more important.
4) I want to spend time on University upgrades - for example finish Amelia while Oil is really easy to get
5) I have lots of general upgrades to do - again easier to do when oil is so plentiful and I don't have other research hogging the two slots.

This pretty much mirrors my thoughts. I'm Level 236 Atomic and I didn't go to CWA either. My walls were even futher behind than yours, so while still keeping my citizens busy, I focused on wall upgrades these rush events. At the start, the bulk of my walls were level 12 with some at level 13. I ended up with seventy-eight level 15 walls and gates.When my current research finishes, I'll just have one research left in the library and nearly everything except generals left in the armory (one commando level and one Americans embassy level left).

Events are probably the number one reason I didn't rush, but I also didn't feel the need to either. I rarely get attacked and I have no problem finding loot. For now, I'll just continue to work on those long upgrades and clearing forests, while I continue Generals and University research.

 

[Agamemnon999]

Wrathchild_78, I don't necessarily disagree about having a better offense. Lots of ways to play the game and be successful. Like I said, I thought hard about it but what probably tipped me towards staying in Atomic was the events. I don't play as much as I used to since all my citizens are busy for 2 weeks at a time but I like to hoard event buildings ( I have 12) for some inexplicable reason. I think I just forget about them.

I will say I have played this game for 3.5 years (for free I might add - Thanks Nexon!!!) and I still enjoy it a lot. My interest ebbs and flows as I'm sure it does with most players, but no other game on mobile has held my attention like this one. There is always some new element that makes it interesting and maybe deep down I decided to stay in Atomic so that I have something to look forward to. I might also just be nuts. For what it is worth, I only went to Atomic in February when I was around a 215 Global so I could argue I'm still getting acclimated to being Atomic. I'm pretty sure I'm just making excuses for myself though...

 

[BeerMan]

I guess it depends on how you play... if you are in a casual warring alliance or don't care about war at all, then nothing wrong with camping in a certain age for a long period. If you are in a competitive alliance, however, GA/AA players with max defense hurt the alliance. You carry high war rank but do not have the attack strength of similarly weighted CWA players.

 

[Manifesto]

1) Better loot, you don't get a negative loot modifier (or as big of one) when you attack Atomic or Global bases. Plus I get a bonus multiplier attacking CWA bases.

Many people have mentioned this and I'm still not convinced there's a negative penalty, unless there's an official response from CS I haven't seen?
Even before the increased production of this event I was easily raiding 500k+ food/gold and 4k+ oil, at any medal range. I could casually raid 20-30,00 oil in an hour or two. None of this is much different to when I was still Atomic. As wrathchild_78 said, his looting capability is the same as before.
How is this negative modifier applied? Is it applied after I win the match? Or is it simply less loot available from the base? (which doesn't make sense given the 1.1mil and 1.3mil bases I've been hitting)
With my storages constantly over 7 or 8mil and oil constantly hovering around 180,000, don't think that CW hinders you in any way. Just the opposite, the increased firepower makes winning battles easier, negative modifier or not.

 

[Dvicious]

I think its just like war loot. If you attack 2 ages down theres a ~50% loot penalty. Do you get those big loots on global bases too manifesto?

 

[Manifesto]

When scouting I never look at the player level, only the base layout and loot available, so I can't answer that.

 

[oddin]

that is a good question. I will keep an eye from now on and come back to you

 

[oddin]

sorry guys, it is only my bad english...
armory upgraded once per age...atomic+cwa = 2 times. that's what I wanted to say