So, that's the game now?

[Seek]

Don't forget a new drone is coming that will reduce the range of troops. Ya gotta luv BHG.
Guess they have to make their money somehow.

I don’t mind them making money but the 50 bucks a week to win war battles with cool 5 stars is like really? Put that money into buildings, research, artifacts or any your other stuff lol people are throwing 200 bucks a month just be Joe cool with FSH and Hangers .
Folks put ya money into something that last more than a week just saying
Win in war can be 143-141 it doesn’t have to be 150vs150 and it decided by 4 seconds

 

[DocHolliday]

Your point not correct I see attackers with + 150-160 EDST all the time not counting their counsel. Now the example he gave was from MP I care nothing about . As for war most DST I have seen is in war counsel mid -40s witch with munitions and spawn of -120 museum which most don’t run cause they put in towers.

So no defender spawn time from counsel on war is not overpowered currently.

There is no one available councillor who provide EDST for offensive players so far.
Neither aedtd/hp.

 

[witCat]

Don't forget a new drone is coming that will reduce the range of troops. Ya gotta luv BHG.
Guess they have to make their money somehow.

If this is indeed the case, the game will become imbalanced.

 

[Vapula]

No you need both night hawk alone is not walking into my base on regular bases I fight top wars all time it takes both. ( this is battle between maxed defenders and maxed attackers)

I am defender and say recon is fine. It’s extra air slots and troop tactics space given by Hangers and FSH are pay to win

Let's agree to disagree..
I've seen many.. Many top defenders go down with just 9 fighters, 4 TTs (and when I mean top defenders I mean defenders in and against top 5 teams) but I've never even once in my life seen a 3D go down without recon even in wars like top 30s..
So call it what you want, even if they fixed FSH you will still be most likely be taken down every war with 4 TTs if I had to bet
But remove recons even with 10 fighters and 7 TTs (which even tho it's not possible but lets take a hypothetical scenario where it is possible) you might still stand strong

 

[Seek]

Let's agree to disagree..
I've seen many.. Many top defenders go down with just 9 fighters, 4 TTs (and when I mean top defenders I mean defenders in and against top 5 teams) but I've never even once in my life seen a 3D go down without recon even in wars like top 30s..
So call it what you want, even if they fixed FSH you will still be most likely be taken down every war with 4 TTs if I had to bet
But remove recons even with 10 fighters and 7 TTs (which even tho it's not possible but lets take a hypothetical scenario where it is possible) you might still stand strong

Lol I am in top 5 team MisfitElite visiting ALT most of time it take both brother to 5 star around 3:00 mark on average. I agree recon is powerful but it is not the main issue the issue is FSH and Hangers two offense buildings which most of time ya can’t spy due to player exploiting not updating base for pay to win.
( note as a defender I would love only 1 recon allowed or removed all together but personally think it would be unfair to strikers I would like to see it where 1 recon from your air slots has to be used to have two using 2 TT saves 2 air slots which is lil much for defenders )

Yes there are a very few players able to take top alliance defenders with just nighthawk hanger but they rare thankfully lol but as I said overall it it not that common.

I am just old guy playing a game I may be right or wrong these are just my thoughts

 

[Seek]

There is no one available councillor who provide EDST for offensive players so far.
Neither aedtd/hp.

Well goes to show I haven’t played with my offense counsel cards lol but still the DST and EDST offset in most top tier battles. So DST is not huge advantage is a squash

 

[King Crimson]

Depriving the player of the option to be able to use war tactics whenever he wants and needs them, is wrong.

Totally agree, but this is how everything works in Dominations now - so why suddenly make a big fuss about Sabo & Betrayal?
Why should l work on my DST only to have you take it away with EDST? I'm betting attackers don't mind that.
Or why should l work on my tower hp only to have you take it away with -enemy tower hp?
Or why should l work on my aircraft hp boost only to have you take it away with enemy aircraft hp reduction?

The fact that now you can't use sab/Betrayal, when you want, is not as bad as eg: having DST reduced for the entire battle. Be glad you can still use them at all.

It's like a game l used to play called tennis clash. I spend my crowns/tokens to boost my forehand - but my opponent can buy a racquet that reduces the strength of my forehand. Wtf???

 

[King Crimson]

If this is indeed the case, the game will become imbalanced.

Yup - BHG giveth, and BHG can taketh away.
Nothing new really - govts & drug cartels have been doing it for years!

 

[Vapula]

Why should l work on my DST only to have you take it away with EDST? I'm betting attackers don't mind that.
Or why should l work on my tower hp only to have you take it away with -enemy tower hp?
Or why should l work on my aircraft hp boost only to have you take it away with enemy aircraft hp reduction?

Nothing is ever fully taken away, you work on your DST enemy works on their EDST it is compared between the two players and whoever has more stats, whoever has grinded more on their museum gets the advantage.
That's totally different from sabo/betray not being able to be used for 10-15 seconds. You are comparing apples and oranges at this point. Yes they are both fruits but they are totally different varieties of fruit altogether..

If your dst is reduced entire battle you have the option to hit the museum and grind out those fragments, what can one do for anti sabo/betray?

Also remember every negative stat is capped at -85% that means defender always have an advantage by boosting their tower stats beyond 85, and attackers have an advantage by boosting their troop stats beyond 85.. Museum is purely stats and probably the most balanced building in this entire game at this point

 

[King Crimson]

Nothing is ever fully taken away, you work on your DST enemy works on their EDST it is compared between the two players and whoever has more stats, whoever has grinded more on their museum gets the advantage.
That's totally different from sabo/betray not being able to be used for 10-15 seconds. You are comparing apples and oranges at this point. Yes they are both fruits but they are totally different varieties of fruit altogether..

If your dst is reduced entire battle you have the option to hit the museum and grind out those fragments, what can one do for anti sabo/betray?

Also remember every negative stat is capped at -85% that means defender always have an advantage by boosting their tower stats beyond 85, and attackers have an advantage by boosting their troop stats beyond 85.. Museum is purely stats and probably the most balanced building in this entire game at this point

Ok wrong choice of words saying "take away". For every museum boost l have, someone else has a museum reduction of some sort. And your explanation isn't relevant to my original point.
The complaint that Sab & Betrayal can't be used is not the same as the above explanation because they're still available to be used at the control of the attacker. As a defender, the museum counters of the attacker affects my museum boosts and l have no control. That's the difference.
So if I need manufactory immunities to counter Sab & Betrayal that's too bad for the attacker.

If your dst is reduced entire battle you have the option to hit the museum and grind out those fragments, what can one do for anti sabo/betray?
Grind more at the museum? No thx. Fortunately l have no problem using Sabo & Betrayal so l don't care about 'anti' Sabo/betray.
What you call 'anti' Sabo/betray is nothing of the sort. After the 10secs you still have the use of them so there's no comparison.
Adapt and move on.

 

[Great the Chris]

These are good suggestions! Love the idea on HTs and AHs. Tests like the ones you mention above would be fun and interesting to test in the “temporary adjustment” seasons. Adjustments they choose don’t address issues. Seem random instead. I’d make them shorter and use them to test fixes for balance issues and keep the ones that work. Would seem much more purposeful and important.

The issue is it takes forever to build a museum. You cant just switch what war attack works. Without a great museum you are screwed