Sandbagging Team

[Mat 3 BloodyBarons]

We are a fair alliance and we are on a WW against Sniper photo is attached who is doing Sandbagging,. I would like to say thanks to this alliance for not playing fairly.

 

[Mat 3 BloodyBarons]

I will keep u informed of the results

 

[Houkai]

If everyone knows how to sandbag and the rules allow it, it's fair. Nothing stops your alliance from sandbagging, ergo you have no right to say who fights fair or not in this case. Look, cheating alliances that use 100 planes per battle are whole different story.

 

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

I hate to break it to you but most alliances sandbag to some degree or another. Whether it's hamfistedly putting 10 level 8 iron dummy accounts with 20 250+ atomics/CW's, or taking newer players into the alliance to show them the ropes (and lower overall war weight). Even the alliances that don't sandbag in this way split the groups into attackers and defenders. Meaning they'll have several max atomic offenses with practically no defense and then have their heaviest defensive bases up top.

Basically manipulating Nexon's poor algorithm to ensure favorable or even decent matchups is one of the most strategic parts of the game at this point. Especially given the all troop cards and decoys all the time mess that wars have devolved to. I'm sure many ''sandbaggers'' and fair play groups alike wish this wasn't the case. However we're over 18 months into this glory system and despite countless posts and lip service about it nothing has changed. Most likely nothing ever will. The big money on top likes the status quo. You probably need to adapt and figure out which version of matchup manipulation your group will go with, or else you're just going to get more and more frustrated.

As Metallica sang, "So it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way."

You can either climb aboard it or get run over by it, because the engineers have been asleep for a very long time now.

 

[MicWoe]

Sandbagging in WorldWars is not the problem. Everybody does it and it´s up to you to find out, when it helps. The unfair match making kills the WW game. No member of an alliance shows up in WorldWar to fight, when your matchmaking is at 565:10.

 

[Mat 3 BloodyBarons]

This team did a perfect WW, we lost 107-125, obviously #22 to #25 did 0 attack, thank you to this Sandbagging team. Agree with Mic Woe issue is matchmaking they had 4 CWA and none of us are @ this age. But our Alliance is not doing any Sandbagging and did really well.

 

[S_How]

If everyone knows how to sandbag and the rules allow it, it's fair. Nothing stops your alliance from sandbagging, ergo you have no right to say who fights fair or not in this case. Look, cheating alliances that use 100 planes per battle are whole different story.

I get tired of debating why bringing inactive accounts should be the #1 strategy in wars, for me its a lost cause. For some reason it is in this game. Its rewarded way more than any other strategy, its crazy. The fact that bringing an inactive alt that will never play or make a meaningful contribution to a team other than to skew matches is rewarded significantly more than bringing a skilled, paying, playing player seems like embarrassingly bad design. And, degree of sandbagging then becomes the next step, which team does it more effectively. I guess its just the way it is.

But, what really sucks for me at least, is that the community manager 'liked' this post. In the past its always been empty words about how they'd like to fix sandbagging and matchmaking. Its the first time I've seen them actually advocate it (other than by game design).

 

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

Nah. I've seen them like numerous ''shut up and sandbag'' posts. Just check out the now-infamous ''Road to Nowhere'' for examples. Sometimes they're under the guise of ''adaptation'' or ''strategy'' like my post above. Sometimes they say ''shut up and sandbag'' nearly verbatim. It's these affirmations and BHG's complete lack of activity about it that finally got me to cave in on the matter.

I don't like it, but I like wasting resources and time on lost causes even less.

Kudos to your group and the others who play it straight though. Maybe the devs themselves will have an epiphany and fix this one day.

Then again their forum still hasn't unscrambled the mystery of the quotation mark, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[Yetanotherusername]

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If tinsoldier approves, clearly sandbagging won’t be fixed and is considered part of the game

 

[Bobortvogel]

I suggest we close this discussion. There are many very simple fixes using weighting, but the game designers have no interest. Let’s just go forward and enjoy the game for what it is.