The New Event is Awesome and Fair! Sparta!

[StarTrekAlliance]

I have no problem at all with receiving additional Goals or opportunites to earn XP for buying the Event Pass. In virtually every single event I have ever competed in, I had to pay some sort of entry fee. When I ran the Chicago Marathon, I had to pay an entry fee to compete. When I run 5k’s or compete in cycling events, I have to pay an event fee. I’m an Artist, and every single juried competition I have ever entered, guess what? I had to pay an entry fee. I have an opening hosted by a Museum this Friday evening, it was a regional juried competition, and yes, I had to pay an entry fee just to be juried, with the possibility of rejection. This is normal practice in the real world.

You have a choice, you can either buy the Event Pass or not…it’s up to you. All of you complaining should be grateful that you are allowed to compete in an Event for free.

Why should those buying an Event Pass receive the benefit of earning additional XP? Because they paid to support the Event and push the game forward. So in my humble opinion, the Event bonus XP is an equalizer that makes the Event more fair. Folks paying most likely have a job and can’t grind 24/7.

I’ve asked this question in the past on this forum. How much do you spend going to the movies? This game has great entertainment value so I don’t mind spending some of my monthly entertainment budget on an Event Pass.

Be grateful that you are being allowed to compete and win prizes for free.

~ Player name ‘Rob’ - Star Trek Alliance

 

[JustAnotherPlayer]

Ahh,a voice of reason instead of a whining screaming banshee.

 

[kokomango]

This coming from the guy who was certain that crafting/upgrading artifacts couldn't be the reason that people were able to grind to top 100.

 

[Althalus]

Fair? Tell that to the dynasty league player who is competing against a bronze league player of the same age for multiplayer wrecking stars. Always winners and losers to these things, last time you were on the losing end and boy what a whinge, tune changed now

Guess folks will have to be smart in picking which events are worth their time and effort.

 

[StarTrekAlliance]

Althalus - This new Event is fair for all the ages. In the last event it seems that only Space Aged players stood any realistic chance at winning due to Archeology Research crafting bonuses. Also players with multiple accounts were advantaged because they could donate/dump troops between accounts, especially taking advantage on War Planning Day. It is fair and just that they closed both the Museum Artifact and Troop Donation grinding loopholes.

You at least, Althalus, have a choice...you can drop Medals if you think your current league will hamper your ability to earn Battle Stars. In the last event as a CWA player, I had no sporting chance at all to win or even place in the top 100, and I had no choices that would have altered the outcome. Limiting grinding to Stars earned in battle is fair for all ages and does not advantage one player over the other...you have choices at least.

I wish you luck in the new event!

 

[StarTrekAlliance]

kokomango - I'm a CWA player who has been playing the game since about a month after it was released. It never occurred to me that they would allow something in the Event that would make it virtually impossible for any player to win, or even compete, unless you were Space Aged. i.e. Archeology Research bonuses. It seems in this new Event they have closed the Museum Artifact loophole.

 

[Chadwicke]

Come on the event is garbage compared to what it was . Now look space age can no longer attack Atomic in multiplayer so get used to using crown for national trade good and place your bets that this is 1000% because of this crap event system

 

[Chadwicke]

As for entertainment value part , the game used to be fun so much so from 2015-2018 I probably spent 15k easy probably more , now with the cheating the broken war , the teir sales , the events , the over powered bombers and Vickers if I do a projection of what I would spend now over the same time it would be around 300-500$ and that's assuming it doesn't get worse but since muet has been lead designer and I assume his team it has got nothing but worse if you were competitive playing from 2015-2017 then you already know it's in steep decline since in the area of entertainment vs being a rip off ...many and I dare say most that spent in that same time period are only playing now because of what they had previously spent and have some clinging to what it was an the friends they made then. But day by day more and more leave the game who were ride it die players before who if none of this cheating and this unwillingness to listen or understand the players would have been here until death day when we log in and everything is gone. And bet that day is coming real soon. Know they lost tons of money in hack gate starting in space age and because theydidn't act all these maxed bases you see now started in 2018 -2019 are 100% no income for them think about it a max base with cards cost around 12-20k depends on if you just buy or gather resources before you buy. There are over 3000 maxed bases now and only 1/3 or less paid for them do the math . Then remember the hack to duplicate cards that people use thats more money they lose , profit and losses got to be looking like a crime scene with all the red.

 

[oddin]

hahaahah I was about to say that for an artist he seems too closeminded but no I will not....

 

[oddin]

it is fair for all ages indeed BUT its not fair for those that wont buy the pass. Pass players get more XP for each star. You think that is fair?

 

[StarTrekAlliance]

Chadwicke - I'm a CWA player and I cannot attack Global aged players...I can only attack one level down. Space Age players, with this change, can now attack only one level down, same as for all the other players. This is fair. All ages are on the same footing.

 

[StarTrekAlliance]

@Wrathchild - It's a choice, right? They can choose to buy an Event Pass. Yes, I think this is very fair. Good luck in the event!

 

[kokomango]

I'm merely saying that the event hasnt even come out, yet you are certain it is fair.

 

[StarTrekAlliance]

kokomango - All good. It is certainly more fair than the last event...so far as I can see. No more XP for Artifacts or Donations which is good in my opinion. As a CWA player, I had no chance at all of winning the last Event. Zero. Good luck in the Event!

 

[King Crimson]

StarTrekAlliance
SA attacking 2 down is normal since CW age.
When Digital age turns up then SA attacks 1 down & DA attacks 2 down.
This change is premature.

 

[StarTrekAlliance]

King Crimson - We can agree to disagree. It is not premature, but long overdue. The only reason Space Age was initially allowed to attack two levels down was because of a lack of CWA players. That clearly is not longer the case as there are hordes of CWA players. I don't think Space Aged players being allowed to attack two levels down is fair at all at this point. It would be like me, being a CWA player, being able to attack Global age...I would bully right over them and probably not even cost me a single troop. With the current Spartan Event, the change makes it fair for all Ages. All ages are on the same footing now...otherwise Space Aged players would have an unfair advantage for XP. This change is fair, just, and timely.

 

[sponge]

King Crimson - We can agree to disagree. It is not premature, but long overdue. The only reason Space Age was initially allowed to attack two levels down was because of a lack of CWA players. That clearly is not longer the case as there are hordes of CWA players. I don't think Space Aged players being allowed to attack two levels down is fair at all at this point. It would be like me, being a CWA player, being able to attack Global age...I would bully right over them and probably not even cost me a single troop. With the current Spartan Event, the change makes it fair for all Ages. All ages are on the same footing now...otherwise Space Aged players would have an unfair advantage for XP. This change is fair, just, and timely.

You need to get your facts straight. There are no hordes of CWA. Here are numbers from dominations.pl:

Space Age - 16,812
Cold War Age - 30,021
Atomic Age - 107,455
Global Age - 122,015
Industrial Age - 241,480
Enlightenment Age - 274,890
Gunpowder Age - 579,677
Medieval Age - 833,393
Classical Age - 992,855
Iron Age - 321,674

Now do some simple additions (subtract 1 for your own base) and pool of available bases for each age shows a real picture here:

Space Age now - 46,832
Space Age before today - 154,287
Cold War Age - 154,287
Atomic Age - 259,490
Global Age - 470,949
Industrial Age - 638,384
Enlightenment Age - 1,096,046

Ages below don't matter much, but if you want, you can do your own math. Now percentage drops between ages:

Space Age now - 70%
Space Age before today - 0%, 41% compared to AA
Cold War Age - 41%
Atomic Age - 45%
Global Age - 27%
Industrial Age - 42%

So with the exception of Global Age, pool of available bases shrinks by about 40% per age, except Space Age, which today got hit with 70% drop. How is that fair?

 

[Althalus]

sponge Nice bit of analysis there.

Those are beyond best case figures too. Domi.pl only tracks active alliances, there are masses of dead accounts not shown on there. It’s reasonable to say the volume of dead accounts decreases significantly as you go up the ages so the disparity is even greater than shown.

 

[Althalus]

I can indeed drop medals. Just as you can age up and before you mention levels, you seem keen to endorse spending on the game so it’s as fine as possibility as high league players grinding medals drops. I’m not a high league player normally btw.

The truth of you post is ‘Hey, I have a chance to win this’. Nothing to do with fairness. You’ll be complaining again when the next event rolls along with xp goals that are a challenge for you. This will happen as these roll out, to just need to pick your battles.

I look forward to seeing you in the top 10 this time, probably not under your name mind seeing how it’s broken again. Good grinding!

 

[sponge]

One thing I didn't even touch on yet, let's round up the number of CWA and SA to 50k, and let's assume just 10% of them are semi-active. I did 10 attacks this morning, in the last 3h. If all of those 10% do just 10 attacks, that will exhaust entire pool of available bases in a few hours. And since we have an event with really nice rewards, it's safe to assume players will go balls out, so we could be in a situation where we have no bases left to attack at all in an hour or 2, since all will either be online or under peace treaty.