Outfitting munitions - should not be locked

Deja Trop Tard

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Currently
- it is possible to have max stables producing auto age cavalry, while not possible to assign top munitions to barrack tank unit provided its level in armory is too low
- same for captain APC spawning captain infantry...assuming the infantry armory level is not high enough, it is not possible to assign munitions...
- max bunker vs heavy tank level in armory...
- houses producting units...
- and more...


It means we need to spend months (years?) in armory to upgrade troops , not to use these, but just to unlock more possible munitions ... It should not be the case - upgrading defense buildings should naturally allow to assign munitions...

There are at least two solutions
- the easy way : do not lock any munition outfitting but manufactory should warn 2nd slot + some munitions only apply to some level
- the hard way : work on the buildings to make buildings level also unlock munitions outfitting.
 

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Well they did warn us about 'required levels' in many posts when the manufactory was introduced. Besides, not all troops need to be Auto Age to have munitions - some drone age units are eligible.
 

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Well they did warn us about 'required levels' in many posts when the manufactory was introduced. Besides, not all troops need to be Auto Age to have munitions - some drone age units are eligible.
Well we have been warned but there is still an issue...

Recently upgrade times were cut down because those are an issue for player base...
 

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It’s not an issue meet the requirements for the manufacture or do without till you meet the requirements.

Example
You currently have to be age 21 to buy a hand gun in most states. If your 18 and have a BB gun you can’t put 9 mm rounds in it. Instead buy the best BB ya can and forget about the 9’mm round til your old enough to purchase .

Remember folks just because level 432 Johnny has something and your level 222 Tommy don’t mean you should be handed the same without earning it. Kinda like complaining about the employees 10 years seniority get 3 weeks vacation and employee under 8 years get 2 weeks. Is this fair yes cause they 8 year and above guys already paid their dues. Same with players been here 5 to 9 years having earned more then those that just joined.
 

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Example
You currently have to be age 21 to buy a hand gun in most states. If your 18 and have a BB gun you can’t put 9 mm rounds in it. Instead buy the best BB ya can and forget about the 9’mm round til your old enough to purchase .
Really - purchasing a gun?? you couldn't think of anything else as an example ... ?
 

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Well we have been warned but there is still an issue...

Recently upgrade times were cut down because those are an issue for player base...
If I assume you're Auto age - since you're complaining about Captain's APC - then what have you been doing all this time with all the resources you've been looting? You could've spent time upgrading your rarely used units - if only to use up resources. Not the game's fault if you've neglected them.
Yes cutting upgrade times was a good thing for the player base but the game shouldn't have to make allowances for people who have squandered opportunities.
 
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Deja Trop Tard

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If I assume you're Auto age - since you're complaining about Captain's APC - then what have you been doing all this time with all the resources you've been looting? You could've spent time upgrading your rarely used units - if only to use up resources. Not the game's fault if you've neglected them.
Yes cutting upgrade times was a good thing for the player base but the game shouldn't have to make allowances for people who have squandered opportunities.
Uh ? Yes I am auto age but obviously my armory is running 24 hours a day, resources are definitely not an issue !! My APC is maxed. But not my infantry .. not main battle tanks... Who has maxed main battle tanks ?
 

Deja Trop Tard

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It’s not an issue meet the requirements for the manufacture or do without till you meet the requirements.

Example
You currently have to be age 21 to buy a hand gun in most states. If your 18 and have a BB gun you can’t put 9 mm rounds in it. Instead buy the best BB ya can and forget about the 9’mm round til your old enough to purchase .

Remember folks just because level 432 Johnny has something and your level 222 Tommy don’t mean you should be handed the same without earning it. Kinda like complaining about the employees 10 years seniority get 3 weeks vacation and employee under 8 years get 2 weeks. Is this fair yes cause they 8 year and above guys already paid their dues. Same with players been here 5 to 9 years having earned more then those that just joined.
It is certainly expected to have defenders need to upgrade defense buildings. Not 100% sure it isn't expected to need to also upgrade offense units

( I do not discuss the machine gun here. This is an official requirement for defenders to upgrade MG in armory. So this case is specific.)
 

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Uh ? Yes I am auto age but obviously my armory is running 24 hours a day, resources are definitely not an issue !! My APC is maxed. But not my infantry .. not main battle tanks... Who has maxed main battle tanks ?
You don't think there might be one or two players out there playing with a different strategy to you??
You can either:
Continue down this path or
Start upgrading to the minimum levels
One of these will get you what you want. The sooner you start the sooner your troops will get there - and it won't take as long as you think. (certainly not years)
 

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It is certainly expected to have defenders need to upgrade defense buildings. Not 100% sure it isn't expected to need to also upgrade offense units

( I do not discuss the machine gun here. This is an official requirement for defenders to upgrade MG in armory. So this case is specific.)
Actuality is BHG put requirement on munition it’s simple as with everything else in game meet the requirements to build. This not only applies to Offensive players it applies to Defense players.
Of corse they require your troops be a certain level and will require you to achieve certain level of buildings, tower and spawning building. This applies to both O and D.

Too many players try the easiest routes. Not upgrading all troop not upgrading towers etc for different reason ( pure O skip D building keep war weight low etc etc ). The problem is when all sudden needing that troop you should have leveled up back in global age and now your auto and need it. That is not BHG fault it is your fault for bad game plan. Should have leveled all troops at every age you chose to skip now upgrade it was your choice. Your mistake is not BHG fault
 
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Should have leveled all troops at every age you chose to skip now upgrade it was your choice. Your mistake is not BHG fault

Leveling all troops in every age is absolutely wrong. We are talking about too many wasted weeks....
Even if you do find the need to use a troop that is in gunpowder age, it is preferable to level it up in one go all the way to Auto Age than level up everything just in case you need it!!
 

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Leveling all troops in every age is absolutely wrong. We are talking about too many wasted weeks....
Even if you do find the need to use a troop that is in gunpowder age, it is preferable to level it up in one go all the way to Auto Age than level up everything just in case you need it!!
Well apparently it is not that bad of idea since this post was made complaining about troop level requirements for munitions. I had zero problem maxing all troops. I do not have the problem cause troops match my level.

Now instead of focusing troops I can max all my gens and have zero requirement issues. Now my choice is paying off and the few weeks ya saved paid off then but now they are behind on munition requirements. This is lesson i learned from them switching focus from factory to barracks troops. Not to leave troops levels behind.
 
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It’s not an issue meet the requirements for the manufacture or do without till you meet the requirements.

Example
You currently have to be age 21 to buy a hand gun in most states. If your 18 and have a BB gun you can’t put 9 mm rounds in it. Instead buy the best BB ya can and forget about the 9’mm round til your old enough to purchase .

Remember folks just because level 432 Johnny has something and your level 222 Tommy don’t mean you should be handed the same without earning it. Kinda like complaining about the employees 10 years seniority get 3 weeks vacation and employee under 8 years get 2 weeks. Is this fair yes cause they 8 year and above guys already paid their dues. Same with players been here 5 to 9 years having earned more then those that just joined.
Your handgun analogy makes the concept so clear and concise. In other words, it’s like high level USPSA members who’s been paying their dues for years having something like a Cabot Moonshot 1911, while some gen Z plinker only having a Hi-Point C9 is complaining why they can’t have the same. I love your metaphor, so easy to understand. I’m only at a Agency Glock EXT2 equivalent level on Dominations right now.
 

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Uh ? Yes I am auto age but obviously my armory is running 24 hours a day, resources are definitely not an issue !! My APC is maxed. But not my infantry .. not main battle tanks... Who has maxed main battle tanks ?
I have all troops maxed ( including main battle tank) and much more. I learned not to leave troops behind when they switched focus from factory to barracks . If you skip something in this game eventually you will need it.
Simple there are requirements to unlock munitions meet them or do without. Your fault if you skipped troops your gain then is your loss now. Perfectly understandable to require auto age troop for auto age munitions.
 
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