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French civ perk

Tower

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The French retrain of troops is still not fixed after the update that was launched yesterday.

french retrain is still a lot slower than what it was before 8.0 update
 

Tower

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Heard a rumor that training time is capped at 85%. If so no point to be French and no point of going past lv 7 VIP

SMART MOVE, Nexon. DUH!
 

Bootney Lee Fonsworth

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Go figure. This game has a real issue with only a handful of nations being viable in late game. So of course the solution is to nerf one of the few viable nations. News flash, 6 more alliance gate spaces, better tanks from the barracks and slightly faster plane training is not much of a bonus at all. Sort of like crippling the Romans after atomic age by making their lone ability ineffective due to no further increases in troop space. I would love to be a fly on the wall during the braintrust's meetings. Probably a horse fly so I could bite people when they propose their terrible ideas.
 

SomeRandomPlayer

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It's a good idea to decrease build times across the board but unfortunately the idea wasn't fully thought out nor implemented well (nor communicated).

I suspect they didn't change French (e.g., make French war tactics train faster and/or increase french alliance gate another +3, or whatever) as user's would beg BHG to balance every nation. Which is a fair request, of course. Imagine if the community was asked for ideas for each nation, and the nation rebalance happened in the open. Just imagine.

In any case, it's still not too late to invest in Salt Mining businesses... BHG employees have been investing for years now and their Salt stock dividends have already surpassed their salaries.
 

Bootney Lee Fonsworth

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Nah, firing up a training blessing and getting an HT in 1.5 minutes is one of the things that made late game multiplayer tolerable. Now, in their infinite wisdom, they've removed that and replaced it with......nothing. Of course, we don't know for sure because for some baffling reason they refuse to post full patch notes despite dumping all sorts of new mechanics and features on us in the last ten days.

Their bad ideas and usually worse implementation of them are one thing it's their befuddling lack of transparency I find most obnoxious about them. They're not required to read or react to the subsequent outrage in any way, it's not like they were going to regardless. Just tell us in plain words what they've done and how it's supposed to work. If they really wanted to be forthright they could even explain their (usually dubious) reasoning. Though the latter would probably create more issues than it solves.
 

Menaxa

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I see the main point in the way they are just seem to sit it out. There was a bug, they fixed it. They saw a problem with the bonus going over 100% with the new VIP bonuses, so they chose to cap it at 85%, like all the bonuses from artifacts, seemingly unaware that French played with 86% under training blessing for ages, and with 96% since space age. That said, it is a simple requirement to TALK about this change BEFORE it is implemented. Now we are not sure if this is a bug or a feature. We don‘t know if the intention will be to fix it, or we better change our race to something else, and ask BHG to pay for it, because they screwed it up without even a warning.
 

Menaxa

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The 85% cap is not a rumor. I measured with French and another guy with 10% from VIP. Without TB I have 30% bonus, because of microprocessor and French bonus, and he had 20% with microprocessor and VIP boost. With TB, what gives 66% btw, we ended both at 85% and should end at 86% and 96%.
 

Flailer

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Plane training time is now 20 min for French - it was around 15 min (which is already soooo long). I also have Microprocessor complete. Please change the training times back to how they should be. Please update us on this and at least let us know if a fix is coming for this as well.
 

Bootney Lee Fonsworth

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So are you going to give us an official answer on this massive change to one of the few viable late game nations? Or are you going to do your typical BHG thing where you ignore questions, stay silent and wait for the next major issue to distract us from this one?

Quite frankly your decision making sucks, and your ability to successfully implement these decisions is usually worse. That's not the issue here. You knew damn well you were going to do this weeks ago. While people would have rightly grumbled about yet another nation nerf while the late game is so unbalanced you could've easily mitigated the responses. You could have given us advance notice and offered a half price nation change. This would have cost you as a company next to nothing. Instead, you perform this massive nerf to the only nation besides Germany and maybe Romans who are worth a damn past atomic age. You don't bother to tell us. We have to find out on our own after you 'fix' an integral part of the game you managed to break for a week.

It literally costs you next to nothing to stop being so obtuse about everything in this game and try to engender some desperately needed goodwill, yet you still don't do it. Simply mindboggling.
 

Bootney Lee Fonsworth

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I have the feeling we'll be waiting for awhile. It sucks that TinSoldier has to be the focus of all the animosity, but that's community management. I don't have Line or Twitter but going by how little I see the guy post and respond on Facebook, Discord and this very forum I would love to know what his typical day at the office entails.

Perhaps we should rephrase this query under the guise of something minor and cosmetic? He seems to answer the inane questions rather promptly.
 

TinSoldier

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We've investigated the Training Blessing cap, and found that there was an unintended limit placed on players of the French Nation, who used a Training Blessing, and were a high enough VIP level.

A few hours ago we implemented a change that should remove the cap. Sorry for the inconvenience!
 

Bootney Lee Fonsworth

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Thank you, Tin Soldier. Could this be the beginning of a beautiful friendship? Like I said, it sucks that you're the focal point of all the rancor, whether it's deserved or not, but I think that a timely bit of transparency could go a surprisingly long way for all concerned.

Hope you enjoy your evening.
 
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