Elephant archer sale...guess nobody listens

[Quovatis]

After numerous threads about how pay to win is breaking the game, we were given some hope that BHG was discussing the situation internally. I was happy to hear the bazooka tower is going to change, but elephant archers are almost as bad. They are by far the best troop on both offense as well as defense, and can easily change the outcome of a war based on who bought more. Again, the Nexon mission statement is "We believe in play to win, not pay to win". Well, offering elephant archers for sale after the community repeatedly points out the problems with it is not living up to that statement at all.

Not that it really matters at this point since so many alliances haven't been able to get a war in over a week, but it just looks really bad to go along with banning players for using stag lures, bases going missing, chat issues, network issues, etc etc. It's been a bad year.

 

[LordJestix]

I take their words to be empty. I look to their past and present actions and nearly everything they do go against the words they write.

More than once, even recently ive seen the post "we only ban deserving players" yet so many people got banned that shouldnt for an exploit that should have been fixed long ago.

It seems they take 1 step forward than fall flat on their face and roll 50 steps down the hill while getting their heads stuck in the dirt oblivious to the player base around them concerned about the game.

Ill probably get another forum ban from this post. So if i do, it will be my last post(relief to a few im sure) and ill be done with the game then.

 

[Krieg]

Why even buy elephant archers if there is no war? Maybe you can use them to hunt wolves...

 

[LordJestix]

Why even buy elephant archers if there is no war? Maybe you can use them to hunt wolves...

War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, why'all

 

[Michele Nx]

After numerous threads about how pay to win is breaking the game, we were given some hope that BHG was discussing the situation internally. I was happy to hear the bazooka tower is going to change, but elephant archers are almost as bad. They are by far the best troop on both offense as well as defense, and can easily change the outcome of a war based on who bought more. Again, the Nexon mission statement is "We believe in play to win, not pay to win". Well, offering elephant archers for sale after the community repeatedly points out the problems with it is not living up to that statement at all.

I agree! I was very disappointed to see these particular troops on sale yet again.

I really like the mission statement and hoped they would stay true to it. It is part of why I joined the game, and was willing to buy the starter houses, some crowns, and even the estate. I understand the need for income of course, and paying to advance time is a reasonable way to provide that. Other games allow paying for cosmetic changes, and that could be fun here too.

Selling such strong troops for offense and SH defense... that is advocating pay to win.

 

[LordJestix]

I agree! I was very disappointed to see these particular troops on sale yet again.

I really like the mission statement and hoped they would stay true to it. It is part of why I joined the game, and was willing to buy the starter houses, some crowns, and even the estate. I understand the need for income of course, and paying to advance time is a reasonable way to provide that. Other games allow paying for cosmetic changes, and that could be fun here too.

Selling such strong troops for offense and SH defense... that is advocating pay to win.

P2W in war is why i will never be in a big war alliance that is on the top of the leader board. I will never ever buy 1 time use items to play a game. I came to that realization spending over 1k playing game of war. Was a complete waste of my money. At least pay to advance i keep what i pay for.

Once they introduced the p2w features of this game, it became a game of credit cards and not a game of skill. Sure skill can bring an alliance close to being able to tie a credit card alliance but now those skilled alliances cant win because of the "tie breaker p2w" feature.

 

[KatZA]

I still think they are testing the players...if people buy them they will take their time fixing the lack of war issue...if they see a reasonable drop in sales I'm sure they will send some nitro infused cavalry to fix it asap!

 

[S_How]

Totally agree Quovatis! I was so encouraged that they changed bazooka tower. But, EA are the troop equivalent to this. I was so disappointed to see them on sale this morning. People immediately started making comments in chat about taking the next few weeks off of war. They are so much stronger than any other troop tactic and are 1000% PTW. Im happy for BHG to make money off troop tactics, but elephant archers need to be balanced.

 

[Nb4powerup]

After numerous threads about how pay to win is breaking the game, we were given some hope that BHG was discussing the situation internally. I was happy to hear the bazooka tower is going to change, but elephant archers are almost as bad. They are by far the best troop on both offense as well as defense, and can easily change the outcome of a war based on who bought more. Again, the Nexon mission statement is "We believe in play to win, not pay to win". Well, offering elephant archers for sale after the community repeatedly points out the problems with it is not living up to that statement at all.

Not that it really matters at this point since so many alliances haven't been able to get a war in over a week, but it just looks really bad to go along with banning players for using stag lures, bases going missing, chat issues, network issues, etc etc. It's been a bad year.

Which other units do you feel might be imbalanced? Also, could you provide more details regarding bases going missing?

 

[ELITE JAG]

NB, the very first step,Nexon must take is to stop blocking selected teams from matching in wars. Why is this happening? And why haven't they fixed it? It has been over ten days that several teams can't match in wars.

 

[Quovatis]

Which other units do you feel might be imbalanced? Also, could you provide more details regarding bases going missing?

The bases going missing was in reference to the friendly challenge fiasco, where many players lost progress and their bases for a long time.

As for other units that are imbalanced, I think the Yumi Warriors are also far too strong as defense in the stronghold. Pathfinders are probably too strong as well.

But listing imbalanced extra troop tactics isn't productive. The real problem is offering them as extra troops for war in the first place. Wars are decided by who has the most premium troop tactics, and there is no way to get enough to compete without paying for them. At the very least, revert the change that makes the stronghold spawn all extra troops upon destruction. This makes pay to win so much worse.

Back when you were forced to use event buildings the week after the event (and no way to buy them with money) was an even playing field for everyone. But now, any kind of balance is gone when players can buy the best buildings/troops and use them in war. This was the biggest mistake in the game, IMHO.

 

[Quovatis]

I'll clarify that what makes Elephant archers and Yumi warriors so strong is that they don't take the bonus cavalry/tank damage from planes. When there are 8 of them in a stronghold, it's very difficult to deal with them, as planes don't do anything.

 

[Michele Nx]

Which other units do you feel might be imbalanced?

When the SH could be sabotaged and the troops wouldn't spawn on destruction, it was more balanced. Skill mattered more. Now that four armies can be loaded in that WILL be spawned no matter what, there is an imbalance. Four extra armies on attack or defense make a huge difference.

 

[Quovatis]

Yes, you used to be able to compete with the big spenders with skill, and never let them spawn, but now there's no way to do that. The only way to win a war with 4 elephant archers in the stronghold is to bring 4 of your own on offense. It's a pay to compete game....skill is such a small component now.

 

[Nb4powerup]

We're not intentionally blocking any teams from participating on WW battles. BHG is fully aware that there is an issue and they're working to address it ASAP.

 

[Nb4powerup]

Ahh, thought it was something new. Thank you for your feedback on the units/buildings.

 

[LordJestix]

But if they didnt make the change then the big spenders would probably not buy as much, so as in everything they do, the made a change for the p2w so they could make more money.

 

[Omegaman]

If Nexon really wants to fix the War matching for the top alliances I'm sure they could by simply rolling back the latest bodge.
Might I suggest they test it out BEFORE releasing to their paying customers .....!!!!

​​​​​​9 days for Storm Elite with no war. Beyond a joke...and we PAY for this. Elephant Archers can go take a flying jump before I'm buying if no War

 

[SiuYin]

No worry, high developed alliance unable to start war now, no one will invest in troop card now

 

[kennynguyen]

I watched some youtube clips and still couldnt understand how elephant archers can fight 1 to 1 with a heavy tank. Such power is not legit.