War Attacks - 100% Victory Edit

[_amsterdam_]

Hello everyone and fellow players,
I am a longtime player of the game who generally stays off the message boards, but I feel fairly passionate about this idea.
As many of you will recognize my name, I am a defensive player for a top alliance. Full disclosure, I am not suggesting this idea to upset anyone by any means. I hope this creates a dialogue in how we can change one small aspect of attacks in War.
I generally have no problem with how war attacks are won, except one small part. We (all my fellow meat shields), as defenders, have spent countless hours upgrading our individual defensive units to provide the biggest resistance, only to have them (some of the time) not even be utilized due to the type of attack on the defending base. Oftentimes I am cleared by Bombers and Fighters with dozens and dozens of troops still alive on the battlefield.
Here lies my suggestion: For 100% victory on a War Attack, ALL TROOPS must cleared as well.
Rather simple, in my opinion, after all, aren't my troops part of my overall base? I know this will probably not go over well with all of the current players, and I hope it can be a talking point going forward.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks,
amsterdam

PS. apologies if this has already been a subject on a thread. Happy to delete if so or help the subject come back to light.

 

[Seek]

Hello everyone and fellow players,
I am a longtime player of the game who generally stays off the message boards, but I feel fairly passionate about this idea.
As many of you will recognize my name, I am a defensive player for a top alliance. Full disclosure, I am not suggesting this idea to upset anyone by any means. I hope this creates a dialogue in how we can change one small aspect of attacks in War.
I generally have no problem with how war attacks are won, except one small part. We (all my fellow meat shields), as defenders, have spent countless hours upgrading our individual defensive units to provide the biggest resistance, only to have them (some of the time) not even be utilized due to the type of attack on the defending base. Oftentimes I am cleared by Bombers and Fighters with dozens and dozens of troops still alive on the battlefield.
Here lies my suggestion: For 100% victory on a War Attack, ALL TROOPS must cleared as well.
Rather simple, in my opinion, after all, aren't my troops part of my overall base? I know this will probably not go over well with all of the current players, and I hope it can be a talking point going forward.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks,
amsterdam

PS. apologies if this has already been a subject on a thread. Happy to delete if so or help the subject come back to light.

As I am member of a top alliance and a defender this proposal you have suggested about all defending troops have to die to complete 100% is not fair.

You can not expect an attacker to be able to accomplish within current battle length, not mention most don’t have the skill too accomplish this feat. I haven’t seen even top attackers be able to accomplish this. So totally unfair suggestion.

The problem lies in the FSH truthfully list it as an offense building to stop its use with hangers. This is why ur base get smoked and ya still have boat loads of defending troops and leading to the frustration that made ya suggest this totally unfair to offense suggestion. I doubt even too 5 attackers could 5 star many bases.

 

[soul]

Defenders are greedy. They always say they're at a disadvantage. You guys keep destroying the balance of the game.

 

[_amsterdam_]

Defenders are greedy. They always say they're at a disadvantage. You guys keep destroying the balance of the game.

very valuable feedback! thank you.

 

[_amsterdam_]

As I am member of a top alliance and a defender this proposal you have suggested about all defending troops have to die to complete 100% is not fair.

You can not expect an attacker to be able to accomplish within current battle length, not mention most don’t have the skill too accomplish this feat. I haven’t seen even top attackers be able to accomplish this. So totally unfair suggestion.

The problem lies in the FSH truthfully list it as an offense building to stop its use with hangers. This is why ur base get smoked and ya still have boat loads of defending troops and leading to the frustration that made ya suggest this totally unfair to offense suggestion. I doubt even too 5 attackers could 5 star many bases.

thanks for your response and appreciate the feedback.

 

[DocHolliday]

Hello everyone and fellow players,
I am a longtime player of the game who generally stays off the message boards, but I feel fairly passionate about this idea.
As many of you will recognize my name, I am a defensive player for a top alliance. Full disclosure, I am not suggesting this idea to upset anyone by any means. I hope this creates a dialogue in how we can change one small aspect of attacks in War.
I generally have no problem with how war attacks are won, except one small part. We (all my fellow meat shields), as defenders, have spent countless hours upgrading our individual defensive units to provide the biggest resistance, only to have them (some of the time) not even be utilized due to the type of attack on the defending base. Oftentimes I am cleared by Bombers and Fighters with dozens and dozens of troops still alive on the battlefield.
Here lies my suggestion: For 100% victory on a War Attack, ALL TROOPS must cleared as well.
Rather simple, in my opinion, after all, aren't my troops part of my overall base? I know this will probably not go over well with all of the current players, and I hope it can be a talking point going forward.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks,
amsterdam

PS. apologies if this has already been a subject on a thread. Happy to delete if so or help the subject come back to light.

Interesting idea. Maybe combined with a longer battle timer ? +15 secs for example?

I don't know, its a big change so needs a lot of thought about

 

[Seek]

Interesting idea. Maybe combined with a longer battle timer ? +15 secs for example?

I don't know, its a big change so needs a lot of thought about

As a defender I say 15 seconds would not be enough. Most time I am beaten for a 5 star it is cause they hit with FSH and Hanger so yea they can 5 star me but come no where near to killing my maxed out defenders.

This idea of killing all ground troops would total unbalance game and is just simply not fair. Two wrongs don’t make a right just cause of FSH is an unbalance doesn’t mean over correcting to extreme where 95% of attackers would stand zero chance to 5 star a base.

I understand frustration of defenders as I am one. But this would be unfair and probably make for a very boring game.

 

[_amsterdam_]

As a defender I say 15 seconds would not be enough. Most time I am beaten for a 5 star it is cause they hit with FSH and Hanger so yea they can 5 star me but come no where near to killing my maxed out defenders.

This idea of killing all ground troops would total unbalance game and is just simply not fair. Two wrongs don’t make a right just cause of FSH is an unbalance doesn’t mean over correcting to extreme where 95% of attackers would stand zero chance to 5 star a base.

I understand frustration of defenders as I am one. But this would be unfair and probably make for a very boring game.

With all due respect, the game is boring now. Agree to disagree.

 

[Seek]

With all due respect, the game is boring now. Agree to disagree.

Totally understand and get all your frustrations i have them as well lol No hard feelings

 

[TitanKnight]

It's like searching for tiny gold piles that prevent a 100% victory—now we have to locate hidden defenders who might be far from our attacking troops. There's just not enough time for this kind of task, I'm afraid.

 

[Seek]

Defenders are greedy. They always say they're at a disadvantage. You guys keep destroying the balance of the game.

Blah Offense players are always wanting an I win cause I spent and got FSH. So it goes both ways. But as a defender I say killing all troops for 100% would be unfair.

 

[SirBiggun]

It's like searching for tiny gold piles that prevent a 100% victory—now we have to locate hidden defenders who might be far from our attacking troops. There's just not enough time for this kind of task, I'm afraid.

I agree with that. Those gold piles are kind of ridiculous to have to clear when they are so hard to find. Having to clear all defenders would make for an incredibly unbalanced game. As it is offensive players are having a tough time and quitting or selling accounts, people would quit in even greater numbers than they are now. It would ruin the game .

 

[King Crimson]

Wait, you don't have to kill all defenders in war to get a 100% victory? Then it's not a 100% victory.
Of course defenders should be killed. Duh
That's what planes are for - and for finding those last few gold piles.

 

[Seek]

I agree with that. Those gold piles are kind of ridiculous to have to clear when they are so hard to find. Having to clear all defenders would make for an incredibly unbalanced game. As it is offensive players are having a tough time and quitting or selling accounts, people would quit in even greater numbers than they are now. It would ruin the game .

Wait, you don't have to kill all defenders in war to get a 100% victory? Then it's not a 100% victory.
Of course defenders should be killed. Duh
That's what planes are for - and for finding those last few gold piles.

Brother we agree on most things but this would be impossible for strikers to do in war battle 100% on all buildings is enough unless time is majorly increased like to the 5 minute mark

 

[King Crimson]

What do the rest of your troops do when encountering defenders - look the other way?

 

[Seek]

What do the rest of your troops do when encountering defenders - look the other way?

Nah my spawn time is high and everything I have is maxed so they hit me FSH and Hanger the air units are what kills my base I most of time have killed all their ground troops with my defense but can’t stop the extra air slots and TT space but forcing them to kill all my defenders in addition to my base would really hard for very top strikers to kill me. So it goes back to what I said earlier two wrongs don’t make a right. But I understand the frustration on D side seeing sometime 100s of troops still standing

 

[King Crimson]

Nah my spawn time is high and everything I have is maxed so they hit me FSH and Hanger the air units are what kills my base I most of time have killed all their ground troops with my defense but can’t stop the extra air slots and TT space but forcing them to kill all my defenders in addition to my base would really hard for very top strikers to kill me. So it goes back to what I said earlier two wrongs don’t make a right. But I understand the frustration on D side seeing sometime 100s of troops still standing

I keep seeing posts like "make defense viable again, attackers are clearing bases in under 2 mins" - sounds like there's plenty of time left for planes to 'mop up'
But, if a de facto victory is as good then l propose the game should have a new mechanic: don't kill all the citizens. You get to sell them as slaves to fight in gladiatorial battles on other bases.
Makes as much sense as having a total victory without actually having a total victory, right?

 

[King Crimson]

I doubt OP wants 2 wrongs to make a right, sounds like he just wants it to make sense.