Hannibal Barca

[Thevinegru]

You guys are trying to be historically accurate so you should probably change the picture of Hannibal. Scientists have retrieved DNA from a Carthaginian who lived 2600 years ago. The guy was some sort of Southwestern European. They’ve found a match with some guy living in Portugal, actually. Of the people living in modern day Lebanon, which was where Phoenicia is located, none of their few thousand samples match the Carthaginian sample.

There are also DNA samples from Sardinia, another Phoenician colony and ancient Lebanon itself, that show similarities also.

I wouldn’t typically care, but we live in a time where a lot of hopeless tribalists want to rewrite history. In this case, because these people scream the loudest, cowardly companies tend to go along with them. Sorry, but that picture is almost certainly wrong and you’re just perpetuating ignorance.

 

[SharkyFinn]

I don't get it. I don't remember anyone screaming about how Hannibal Barca's image is portrayed before your post. So what exactly is it about the image that offends you so much that you felt compelled to write this? There are no facts to support your theory. You can't look at the DNA of a random person who lived 2600 years ago and know what a different person of that time looked like - any more than I could look at the DNA of your neighbor and know what you look like. Hannibal Barca's mother is completely unknown and there's little to no evidence to show how Hannibal Barca looked despite your strong feelings on the subject. Some historians have made educated guesses based on coins that survived, but even in those, there's a marked difference between coins printed at the heigher of Hannibal's power and those printed by the Roman Empire after his defeat.

Is this Hannibal Barca?

Or is this Hannibal Barca?

 

[Manifesto]

Lol, you go SharkyFinn.
Given the historical ‘’idiosyncrasies’’ throughout this game, that someone should get so riled up about how accurate a historical figure looks.
Thevinegru , are you a descendant of Hannibal perhaps?

 

[Spaceboy]

nah.. I have to agree. Nexon must be correct on all the points. We know that they like to have a 100% perfect game with zero faults !

 

[Thevinegru]

The people “screaming” are called afrocentrics. They claim all the pharaohs were black. Jesus was black. Everyone in North Africa was black.

As for historians making educated guesses, we’re passed that. We have dna now so we don’t need to guess based on coins. You’re basically dismissing the evidence we have and saying, “Well we really don’t know.”. Of course we don’t know with anywhere near 100% accuracy, but according to the evidence, odds are, the guy was descended primarily from Phoenicians. Phoenicians weren’t black...at this point, we can say that with 100% accuracy...The Barca family was a Carthaginian noble family. What are the odds they weren’t Phoenician?

Sardinia, another Phoenician colony, shockingly enough, was most closely related to modern Syrians, which is where Phoenicia was. As for Cathage, they famously used Iberia as a large source of their manpower so the fact that the only viable DNA found from a Carthaginian is most closely related to a sample taken from some Portuguese guy.

So yeah, you’re totally wrong. The evidence pretty clearly shows the guy wasn’t black. Sorry, accuracy matters. Truth matters. If he was black, I wouldn’t care. Why would I? But I don’t like people placing their PC feeling ahead of actual history.

 

[Thevinegru]

No, I just dislike revising history on the basis of nothing based in fact...we live in an awesome time where we learn more and more about the movements of ancient humanity based on DNA. We’re learning things that are incredibly interesting. Why not embrace it?