DomiNations Update 12.12 - New Account Management System

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Greetings Leaders,

Our latest update is currently scheduled for an 11/6 release. With this release we’ll be implementing our new Account Management system, and outside a minor fix regarding Drone Directives, there are no additional changes within this update.

DomiNations World Accounts existed prior to this release (using an older technology). For the sake of clarity, in the following notes, we will refer to NEW DomiNations World Accounts (created post patch 12.12—powered by Xsolla's Login technology) as 'Full DomiNations World Accounts' to differentiate them from OLD DomiNations World Accounts (created pre-patch 12.12).

The New DomiNations World Login system will help organize multiple bases and make starting new bases easier. To ensure a smooth transition we asked that you prepare yourself by linking all of your accounts to DomiNations World. If you’ve not done so already we’re here to help! You should be able to find the instructions that apply to your situation below!



When the update goes live, you'll see this screen regardless of whether you already have an Old DomiNations World account.

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You can tap ‘Learn More!’ and feel free to visit the page and learn more about DomiNations World, how account linking works, and more if this is available in your region.

Otherwise, you’ll tap ‘I Understand’ and see the new Account Login Screen! Here you can log into an existing Old DomiNations World Account (turning it into a Full DomiNations World Account), create a Full DomiNations World Account (you will be taken to account creation if the credentials you put in are not linked to an account yet), or skip the login and Full DomiNations World Account creation process.

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Will all players get a new Full DomiNations World Account the first time they log into DomMobile?​

No. If players choose to “Skip” Full DomiNations World Account creation, they will have a Guest DomiNations World Account with limited functionality.

  • You will not be able to log into DomiNations World with a Guest DomiNations World Account
  • You will not be able to log into other devices with a Guest DomiNations World Account

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If you have not registered your account on DomiNationsWorld.com or don’t wish to set up multiple accounts, hit the ‘skip button’ when the login screen pops up.

This will create a ‘Guest Account’ and load the last base played on the device.

Note: Players who do not create a Full DomiNations World Account run the risk of losing their account and the bases associated with that ‘Guest Account’ if the player loses access to the device. BHG highly recommends that players create a Full DomiNations World Account!

You can always opt to turn your ‘Guest Account’ into a full account at any point during regular play to avoid any possible loss of progress.
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1) Hit the settings button on the right side of the screen.
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2) Tap ‘Manage Account’
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3) You’ll come to a screen that shows the account you’re playing, ‘Guest Account’ will be in the upper right corner of this menu, and ‘Log in’ will be on the bottom right. Tap ‘Log In’
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4) You’ll return to the ‘Log-in’ Screen, where you can create a Full DomiNations World account or log in with an existing Full DomiNations World Account.

If you don't skip Login this time, and instead Log in to a Full DomiNations World Account, then the base you were on– and any other bases you could see in the Account Management Page while you were playing under the ‘Guest Account’-- will be moved into this new Full DomiNations World Account.

Note: BHG highly recommends that players use the same username and password to create a Full DomiNations World Account that they previously used on Old DomiNations World Accounts. While not required, using the same email address will make things far easier for you in future steps.
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4_a) If you open DomiNations on Mobile and create a Full DomiNations World Account you’ll see your linked bases.

Note: If you try logging into Dom World using your old DW credentials (ex. player@gmail.com), after you’ve created a Full DomiNations World Account on Dom Mobile with different credentials (ex. player@yahoo.com), your bases will have already been reassigned to the new credentials used on Dom Mobile (player@yahoo.com) and you will be shown a message that this base has been assigned to those new credentials (player@yahoo.com).
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4_b) If you try to log into DomiNations World with your new Full DomiNations World Account credentials from Dom Mobile (player@yahoo.com), you will be able to log in as expected.

4_c) If you get a new device and create a Full DomiNations World Account with a different email (ex. player@aol.com), you will get a new base NOT associated with any existing Full DomiNations World Accounts.
To access bases from your old device, you will need to log into your Full DomiNations World Account (player@yahoo.com).

If you don’t remember your Full DomiNations World Account credentials (player@yahoo.com), you will need to follow the forgot password flow to log into the Full DomiNations World Account your bases are attached to (player@yahoo.com).


4_d) Your bases that were linked in your Old DomiNations World Account prior to the release of the new Account Management System will all be associated with the New DomiNations World Account created when you log into a device that is associated with one of those bases after the new Account Management System goes live.

If you linked your accounts on DomiNations World before the release of the new Account Management system, you will NOT need to log into any other iOS or Android accounts.

If you linked your accounts on DomiNations World prior to the new Account Management System release (player@yahoo.com), then after the update is released, if the player chooses to skip the login process on DomiNations Mobile, they will not be able to do so and will be prompted with “Please login with your DomiNations World credentials” to create a New DomiNations World Account due to your other accounts already being associated with an Old DomiNations World account (player@yahoo.com)

If you choose to log in with ‘Sign-in with Apple’ or ‘Google Authentication,’ as long as the Full DomiNations World Account email is the same as your Old DomiNations World Account email then linkage will happen for DomiNations World players that have previously linked accounts.


Will all DomiNations World users get a Full DomiNations World Account the first time they log into DomiNations World after the Account Management update goes live?​

Yes. If a player logs into DomiNations World with their existing credentials after the Account Management update goes live, then a Full DomiNations World Account will be created with those same credentials. Any pre-linked DomiNations accounts will be maintained.



From the Log In window, you’ll want to log in with the same email credentials as your Old DomiNations World account (if available in your region.) Tap the button that says ‘Continue with Email.’ (1)

This will create what we’ll call your ‘Primary Account.’ You’ll load into the last base that was logged in on the device.
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1) Tap the ‘settings’ button on the right side of the screen.
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2) Then tap ‘Manage Account’ to find a list of all the other Accounts linked to your Full DomiNations World account!
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3) You can switch to a different base from this window. Tap the select button next to the Base you wish to change to.
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Confirm that you’d like to switch to the Base you’ve selected. The game will then reload and open this base.



Yes. However, all bases will need to be manually linked by logging into those individual TOY, iOS or Android accounts, in your device settings, while remaining logged into your Full DomiNations World Account. You will only be able to do this after the New Account Management update goes live (similar to the way you manage multiple accounts now.)

Here’s how:

1) After setting up your Full DomiNations World Account, to add additional accounts you’ll need to go to your chosen platform’s settings.
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2)Close the game completely and switch your Google Play or Apple ID log-in (or your device/region’s preferred Game Account) before reopening DomiNations.

You will need to follow these steps based on the platform your DomiNations Account was created with:

To switch DomiNations accounts on Android using Google play.

First, navigate to the Google Play store:
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Next, open the profile menu in the top right corner of the screen:
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Press the Manage your Google Account Button
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On the Google Account screen, select the dropdown menu next to the account name. Then select Manage accounts on this device.
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Select the add account button and add a different account to Google Play.

Be sure to remove the previous google accounts from the list.

Going back into DomiNations the game will recognize the Google Account change and load the associated Base.
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To switch your Dominations account on iOS, navigate to Game Center in the settings app.
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Sign out of the Game Center account and sign into a new Game Center account.

Load back into Dominations and you will be given an option to load into the base associated with the new GameCenter ID.
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For Toy accounts (and by extension Samsung accounts because they also use Toy) Players do not even need to leave DomiNations to switch accounts.

In the top left, underneath the Sound Effects button, press the button that says Logout.
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Now when pressing the login button players can choose how they want to log in using Toy:
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3) After switching your preferred Platform’s Account, jump back into DomiNations and the game will load that Platform Account’s Base.

4)
To confirm that this was done correctly, after your base loads, go to the settings menu and open ‘Manage Account.’

Here, you should find a list of bases that have logged in with this new method: the one from your first login and the one you’re on now (or any additional bases if you’ve repeated this process from the beginning of this section)
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No. All non-Samsung TOY bases will need to be manually linked by logging into those TOY accounts while using the same New DomiNations World Account credentials after the Account Management update goes live.

Here’s How:

1) To do so create your Full DomiNations World Account when the update goes live.
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1_a) If you create a Full DomiNations World Account, you will need to log into each TOY account that you want associated with your Full DomiNations World Account in order to link under one account. Logging into a TOY account after logging into the Full DomiNations World Account will automatically link the TOY accounts to the Full DomiNations World Account. (See section above “Will players who do not link their accounts before the release of Account Management Update be able to do so?)

You can log into different TOY accounts on the same device. If you use separate devices for other TOY accounts, you will need to log into your Full DomiNations World Account in order to link those TOY accounts.


1_b) Remember, if you choose to ‘Skip’ the login process, and create a Guest Account, you must use the same device in order to link additional TOY accounts.

A Guest DomiNations World Account can be upgraded to a Full DomiNations World Account at any time. When you choose to upgrade to a Full DomiNations World Account, all linked TOY accounts will be migrated. Guest DomiNations World Accounts cannot log into DomiNations World.


1_c) If a TOY player chooses to 'Skip' the new Login process after the Account Management System update is released, they will have created a Guest Account, and their TOY account will be linked to it.

If a TOY player completes the new Login process (doesn't skip this step), they will have created a Full DomiNations World Account, and their TOY account will be linked to it.


1_d) Samsung TOY players are able to link their DomiNations World accounts in advance if DomiNations World is available in your region.



Additional Questions​

Can players still link their accounts on DW after the Account Management Update goes live?
No. That functionality will be removed after the Account Management Update goes live. Any existing bases will need to be linked in the Dom Mobile app. You can, however, still switch between your bases and play them on the web version of DomiNations.


Will players be able to link existing accounts in the Web version of Dominations?
No. Players can only link accounts via the DomiNations Mobile app after the Account Management System update goes live. Account linking will no longer be available on the DomiNations World website. Players will not be able to link other accounts (accounts found via TOY, Google Play, or GameCenter) via Dominations on the Web.

You can create new accounts via DomiNations World when playing through the browser. Once created, these new accounts will also be available on your DomiNations Mobile account, provided they are logged into the same Full DomiNations World Account on the Web and Mobile.


If I “Skip” the Full DomiNations World Account creation step, will I be able to link my accounts later?

Yes. However, a Guest DomiNations World Account will be created by skipping the Full DomiNations World Account creation step. Players who have pre-linked their accounts on DomiNations World will be prompted to create a Full DomiNations World Account.

Players who do not create a Full DomiNations World Account risk losing their account and the base/account associated with that Guest DomiNations World Account if they lose access to the device. BHG highly recommends that players create a Full DomiNations World Account.


If I log into DomiNations on Mobile for the first time after the Account Management Update has gone live and use credentials (e.g., player@yahoo.com) that DO NOT match the credentials I used to log into Old DomiNations World previously (e.g., player@gmail.com), will my accounts still be linked?
Yes. The accounts will still be linked to the Full DomiNations World Account for all pre-linked accounts but the player must use the new credentials on DomiNations World to log in (player@yahoo.com).


If I log into DomiNations World with my old DomiNations World credentials (e.g., player@gmail.com) AFTER creating a Full DomiNations World Account on the mobile version of DomiNations with a new set of credentials (e.g., player@yahoo.com), what happens?
You will receive an error message that new credentials were established on the Mobile version of DomiNations and will be required to login via those new credentials.


How many Full DomiNations World accounts do I need to create to access multiple bases?
One. Players will have the ability to link all their previous accounts (iOS, Android, or TOY) into a single Full DomiNations World Account that allows them to switch bases directly in the game or from the account selection on DomiNations World!

When creating a Full DomiNations World Account for the first time, make sure to use your existing Old DomiNations World credentials for the most seamless transition.

A single Guest DomiNations World Account can be used to switch between multiple bases, although, you must upgrade to a Full DomiNations World Account before having access to all of your bases.


What happens if I log into DomiNations World before DomiNations on Mobile after the update?
If a player logs into DomiNations World after the release of the Account Management Update using their old credentials, a Full DomiNations World Account will be created. This only happens if you have never logged into DomiNations Mobile since the update.



If you have any other questions, or find that you need help ensuring all your old accounts are linked to your Full DomiNations World Account, feel free to contact our CS Team either here or via email at support@bighugegames.com. We do ask for your patience when it comes to response times as we’re expecting a higher than normal volume of tickets requesting assistance.



Additional Fixes​

  • Fixed an issue where some players would experience a Network Disconnect when attempting to finish a Drone Directive Upgrade instantly with crowns.
 
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Unsurprisingly, CS is utterly useless. They replied back to me asking again for player IDs for accounts I cannot access and asking me for domi world user dvd numbers I cannot access. I provided the information I do have access to, including my main domi world account that user ID and player ID and a screenshot of all the accounts linked. This is unacceptable.

I have no faith I will be able to access my unaccessible accounts due to this snaffu. Not because they're lost, but because CS can't get out of their own way. How come a system requires us to provide information that we can't always access if we cannot simply login?
We have access to your other accounts that can be found with the one base you have access to, but it might take a bit more digging on the CS Team without that information of those other bases. Rest assured you have not lost your other accounts.
 
same here, its a waste of my time, how am I supposed to attack in war now?
@Harlems369th
those are my three accounts
major
aekt (this was the main acount on dominations world)
Qazwsxedc
now I linked those accounts, in dominations world a couple weeks back when you asked us to do so, and when I logged in 3 days ago it asked me to verify my login email, and after I did, all my 3 accounts are gone,
now since apple changing the gamecenter does not work I cannot get in to my two other bases, losing wars, and the event, and I bought events as well, and also manufactory collection,
been playing from the start but now I am just beyond frustrated
 
same here, its a waste of my time, how am I supposed to attack in war now?
@Harlems369th
those are my three accounts
major
aekt (this was the main acount on dominations world)
Qazwsxedc
now I linked those accounts, in dominations world a couple weeks back when you asked us to do so, and when I logged in 3 days ago it asked me to verify my login email, and after I did, all my 3 accounts are gone,
now since apple changing the gamecenter does not work I cannot get in to my two other bases, losing wars, and the event, and I bought events as well, and also manufactory collection,
been playing from the start but now I am just beyond frustrated
You may be able to switch accounts now on DomiNationsWorld.com, but that is on the PC version of DomiNations only. The team is still hard at work fixing the mobile version, rest assured your accounts are not lost.
 
We have access to your other accounts that can be found with the one base you have access to, but it might take a bit more digging on the CS Team without that information of those other bases. Rest assured you have not lost your other accounts.
Thanks. Once I get access to all again I will throw all into a spreadsheet.
 
Thanks. Once I get access to all again I will throw all into a spreadsheet.
It is just a precaution, like saving your emergency two factor authentication keys, but as I understand it the CS Team can find all the information of your accounts that are linked so long as you have the information of just one.
 
We want to acknowledge and apologize for the challenges some of you are experiencing as we implement new account changes. With our transition to a new parent company, there are underlying adjustments affecting account systems and the transfer of our apps from Nexon to Big Huge Games. While we've prepared extensively, some unexpected issues have arisen. We appreciate your patience and understanding as we work through these to enhance your overall experience.

To clarify, Update 12.12 for DomiNations on both PC and Mobile has not been released. This delay is due to essential adjustments in the initial account-linking processes within DomiNations World. We appreciate your understanding as we work to ensure everything functions smoothly.

What is happening? Prior to 11/5 if you logged into DomiNations World this created an issue where some players were unable to switch accounts. This is in part due to the transition from Nexon to Big Huge Games ownership on the app stores. In August, we announced our partnership with Long Tale Games, which also marked our acquisition by our new parent company, Xsolla. This transition also required that login credentials be transferred under the Xsolla umbrella as well.

Some of you may have already noticed the Xsolla email confirmation that came through when trying to log back into DomiNations World. This is a part of the account setup process on DomiNations World and confirming the activation of your New Full DomiNations World Account. It gives a location for DomiNations Mobile to easily recognize your other associated bases (the setup process we outlined in our 12.12 Update notes).

For those who were in a state where you’re unable to access your additional bases on DomiNations PC and Mobile due to linking your accounts prior to 11/5, you should now be able to do so on the PC version of DomiNations only (DominationsWorld.com). Unfortunately, most of those Mobile players will not be able to switch bases until our release on Wednesday.

We will update with more information as it becomes available.
Thanks Harlems. I really appreciate the thorough and well thought out response. The backstory is helpful.

What worries me is that there has been an uptick in unintended bugs, behavior etc since LTG took over. There's seemingly something new with each intended release. I understand that this is likely a huge lift going from one owner to another and login platform, but it's absolutely back breaking for players who cannot play for roughly a week if not slightly longer. We cannot claim manufactory, event rewards, etc. Hell, I believe I purchased the 0.99 link event reward pass which is now going to go to waste. Just frustrated.

Again, i want to stress my thankfulness in your reply especially since you've been on top of relaying information quickly to all players.
 
Thanks Harlems. I really appreciate the thorough and well thought out response. The backstory is helpful.

What worries me is that there has been an uptick in unintended bugs, behavior etc since LTG took over. There's seemingly something new with each intended release. I understand that this is likely a huge lift going from one owner to another and login platform, but it's absolutely back breaking for players who cannot play for roughly a week if not slightly longer. We cannot claim manufactory, event rewards, etc. Hell, I believe I purchased the 0.99 link event reward pass which is now going to go to waste. Just frustrated.

Again, i want to stress my thankfulness in your reply especially since you've been on top of relaying information quickly to all players.
I completely understand how frustrating that may be.

As an alternative for the time being you should still be able to play on DomiNationsWorld.com, that way you can at least claim your rewards and resources or participate in any outstanding Wars if those are still running since being locked out. We definitely don't want to tell you "come back in a week" without having access to your bases. If you are unable to play on the PC version for some reason (like trying to play in an unsupported region without a VPN) we're still working as quickly as possible to rectify the mobile version for those that have been locked out of other bases.
 
Thanks Harlems. I really appreciate the thorough and well thought out response. The backstory is helpful.

What worries me is that there has been an uptick in unintended bugs, behavior etc since LTG took over. There's seemingly something new with each intended release. I understand that this is likely a huge lift going from one owner to another and login platform, but it's absolutely back breaking for players who cannot play for roughly a week if not slightly longer. We cannot claim manufactory, event rewards, etc. Hell, I believe I purchased the 0.99 link event reward pass which is now going to go to waste. Just frustrated.

Again, i want to stress my thankfulness in your reply especially since you've been on top of relaying information quickly to all players.
All this uptick in recent bugs suggests that these will get priority for the new owners while long-standing ones will be relegated with the tired clichés of 'working as intended' or even worse 'it's been like that for a while so ....' - but let's hope I'm proven wrong - and let's hope the next week passes quickly.
Even Seek has stopped complaining about battle reports 😄 - while I'm still annoying CS about the stuffed up heli range. Although I don't have any faith in either or even QOL updates like 'one-tap collect all' button - again, let's hope I'm wrong.
 
I completely understand how frustrating that may be.

As an alternative for the time being you should still be able to play on DomiNationsWorld.com, that way you can at least claim your rewards and resources or participate in any outstanding Wars if those are still running since being locked out. We definitely don't want to tell you "come back in a week" without having access to your bases. If you are unable to play on the PC version for some reason (like trying to play in an unsupported region without a VPN) we're still working as quickly as possible to rectify the mobile version for those that have been locked out of other bases.
No, I cannot play on DominationsWorld.com. I linked all 6 of my accounts on DominationsWorld.com months ago. Two were PC-only accounts. The others were ios accounts. Today, I loaded DominationsWorld, got an "unexpected response from server" and could not proceed. I cleared saved data from my cache from BHG, helpshift and dominationsworld and tried again. This time, the let me log in, sent me an email verification, I verified, tried to launch a game and got a server error message and the game thinks I have no (0) accounts. This was on Firefox (fully updated) on Windows 11 (fully updated) with adequate memory.

I would report this as a bug to customer service but they always tell me that I should report bugs through the in-game interface, even when I tell them the problem I have is that I can't log in. So take this feedback or ignore it, up to you, but I'm not going to try to dance through a useless interaction with CS on this.
 
Those that have got into a bad state on DomiNationsWorld.com, your account information and game progress isn't lost.

We currently advise for you to NOT log into DomiNationsWorld.com for the time being as we resolve this issue. If you are locked on DomiNations World you can still play without issue on the mobile version of DomiNations.

Again, your information is NOT lost if you linked on DomiNations World. Your accounts should still be accessible on DomiNations Mobile. Update 12.12 has not started to rollout yet, and currently we're planning to delay the release.
During the AMA, I suggested that maybe you should consider incorporating more beta testing in your development process. ... Maybe you should consider incorporating more beta testing in your development process. ... Maybe too, maybe you should consider incorporating more professional testing in your development process.

Sorry for showing some irritation. It's been an irritating/disappointing week, maybe for a whole lot of people around the world, and having my entertainment blow up in the middle of that is not helpful and not welcome. It would be nicer if this game were part of my refuge and not part of my problems.
 
Unsurprisingly, CS is utterly useless. They replied back to me asking again for player IDs for accounts I cannot access and asking me for domi world user dvd numbers I cannot access. I provided the information I do have access to, including my main domi world account that user ID and player ID and a screenshot of all the accounts linked. This is unacceptable.

I have no faith I will be able to access my unaccessible accounts due to this snaffu. Not because they're lost, but because CS can't get out of their own way. How come a system requires us to provide information that we can't always access if we cannot simply login?
Unfortunately Unity doesn't support playing on a phone browser; you'll have to use a computer to play your accounts. They should be accessible there.
 
same here, its a waste of my time, how am I supposed to attack in war now?
@Harlems369th
those are my three accounts
major
aekt (this was the main acount on dominations world)
Qazwsxedc
now I linked those accounts, in dominations world a couple weeks back when you asked us to do so, and when I logged in 3 days ago it asked me to verify my login email, and after I did, all my 3 accounts are gone,
now since apple changing the gamecenter does not work I cannot get in to my two other bases, losing wars, and the event, and I bought events as well, and also manufactory collection,
been playing from the start but now I am just beyond frustrated
Your account should be fixed now. Sorry for the inconvenience.
 
During the AMA, I suggested that maybe you should consider incorporating more beta testing in your development process. ... Maybe you should consider incorporating more beta testing in your development process. ... Maybe too, maybe you should consider incorporating more professional testing in your development process.
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“We've made adjustments to your account and you should now be able to switch between your bases.”

This worked before via dominationsworld - but not since this message! Now I still have a few stone age accounts that I can access. All the others are gone now. It's not funny anymore...

@Harlems369th
I already understood that I have to wait for mobile - but why are you now changing my domiworld account so that everything is gone?
 
“We've made adjustments to your account and you should now be able to switch between your bases.”

This worked before via dominationsworld - but not since this message! Now I still have a few stone age accounts that I can access. All the others are gone now. It's not funny anymore...

@Harlems369th
I already understood that I have to wait for mobile - but why are you now changing my domiworld account so that everything is gone?
For the moment, your bases can either be in DomiNations World where you can switch among them, or on the Mobile app where you switch via the social logins as you did previously. It sounds like your account is now switched into the social-on-mobile state, so try logging in again with that method.
Early next week when the next update lands, everything will be smoother.
 
For the moment, your bases can either be in DomiNations World where you can switch among them, or on the Mobile app where you switch via the social logins as you did previously. It sounds like your account is now switched into the social-on-mobile state, so try logging in again with that method.
Early next week when the next update lands, everything will be smoother.
Mobile is working now - would have been good if support had written it that way
 
For the moment, your bases can either be in DomiNations World where you can switch among them, or on the Mobile app where you switch via the social logins as you did previously. It sounds like your account is now switched into the social-on-mobile state, so try logging in again with that method.
Early next week when the next update lands, everything will be smoother.
So when you say "social logins", I presume you mean in my settings: Google Services, All Services, Play Games, Sign-in Account, etc?
Because that's not working for me. It just continually loads the last base I was playing, no matter which base I choose. And when I switch to "ask each time" same thing.
 
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