Artillery firing speed post 12.20 update

[KrispyCrame]

It has come to attention of the community that the firing speed of artillery is faster post update. This is NOT due to agility drone. Please see attached videos from the community at various ages.

As you can see as soon as the ranged siege is placed, it's firing like it's on crack without an agility drone in the vicinity.

Rs were not firing this way pre update.

 

[SolarRad75]

I like semi automatic artillery, Firing 10 shots per second lol. Kinda scary for defenders though.

 

[DpK]

It's becoming a gas factory, the devs have lost control…

 

[Ezekiel]

I bet they won’t fix this like they never fix the sniper towers.

 

[Harlems369th]

It has come to attention of the community that the firing speed of artillery is faster post update. This is NOT due to agility drone. Please see attached videos from the community at various ages.

As you can see as soon as the ranged siege is placed, it's firing like it's on crack without an agility drone in the vicinity.

Rs were not firing this way pre update.

We're aware. This is what happens with the incredible amount of stats benefiting this unit from showcases and the Mongol Coalition. Certainly faster than it should be, have fun for now.

 

[KrispyCrame]

We're aware. This is what happens with the incredible amount of stats benefiting this unit from showcases and the Mongol Coalition. Certainly faster than it should be, have fun for now.

Can your "have fun for now" comment be a hint at 12.21 coalitions nerfs?

 

[King Crimson]

I bet they won’t fix this like they never fix the sniper towers.

Or the heli range

 

[Ezekiel]

We're aware. This is what happens with the incredible amount of stats benefiting this unit from showcases and the Mongol Coalition. Certainly faster than it should be, have fun for now.

What does the showcase have to do with attack speed?! None of the legendary artifacts give a line on mortar or artillery attack speed.

It sounds to me like you've been given the wrong info again, or you're trying to cover up.

 

[Dhruv patel]

I bet they won’t fix this like they never fix the sniper towers.

what is the sniper tower issue?

 

[Ezekiel]

what is the sniper tower issue?

Sniper tower’s ‘explosive damage’ hasn't been in effect properly since the manufactory’s release. (v12.1 Update) It was shooting like a little Bazooka Tower (small radius AOE damage) now this ‘explosive damage’ can only do damage to 2 targets.
This has been an issue for 2 years.

 

[Riku]

Can your "have fun for now" comment be a hint at 12.21 coalitions nerfs?

Mongol's coalition needs a rework, I would change attack speed by splash radious and that would fix this issue.

 

[ElonMusk]

Mongol's coalition needs a rework, I would change attack speed by splash radious and that would fix this issue.

I would change splash radious to splash radius but everything else is all good

 

[Harlems369th]

Sniper tower’s ‘explosive damage’ hasn't been in effect properly since the manufactory’s release. (v12.1 Update) It was shooting like a little Bazooka Tower (small radius AOE damage) now this ‘explosive damage’ can only do damage to 2 targets.
This has been an issue for 2 years.

We actually did fix that explosive damage upon release. If you recall the radius was so small that it was insanely difficult to notice, so the radius was increased slightly. It wasn't intended to be a large AOE to begin with.

 

[Ezekiel]

We actually did fix that explosive damage upon release. If you recall the radius was so small that it was insanely difficult to notice, so the radius was increased slightly. It wasn't intended to be a large AOE to begin with.

The issue is: in the past,(before 12.1) if 100 infantry stood very very close together, a sniper tower shot would damage them ALL. Of course I know the radius is small. But now, no matter how many troops are standing close together, one sniper tower shot can only damage 2 targets at most. Even 100 infantry stand exactly together.

 

[Dhruv patel]

that 3rd clip with artillety and the walls... what the hell.

context... what coalitions and artifacts are equipped. if this is a bug a full context on what is equiped is needed

 

[ElonMusk]

I watched just one of my artillery destroy a dedoy trap in less than 2 sedonds.

 

[KrispyCrame]

We're aware. This is what happens with the incredible amount of stats benefiting this unit from showcases and the Mongol Coalition. Certainly faster than it should be, have fun for now.

Given some discussion with another member of the community, shout out to Mums, it's been brought to my attention that it's actually not the benefit from showcases impacting attack speed (nor should it). Instead, wording was changed, and I presume the math, in a library chapter for range siege attack speed. Attached are two pictures. One is from the unofficial wiki, but had information prior to the update. The other is the wording post update.

The result is that you get +97.5% attack speed on ranged siege from Space Age where you can add a second munition to artillery. 76.5% mongols+10% lib+11% munitions=97.5%

My questions to you and @BHGAustin are 1) if you can confirm this is the indeed what is causing the faster firing speed and 2) why this was updated and not included in patch notes? If it's in the patch notes and I missed it, my apologies can you point me to it?

 

[nobodyknowsthetrouble]

library research description were updated in 12.18 (according to patch notes)
However, I cannot determine whether the text was changed 2 months ago or few days ago.

 

[KrispyCrame]

library research description were updated in 12.18 (according to patch notes)
However, I cannot determine whether the text was changed 2 months ago or few days ago.

Yeah the text was definitely updated in 12.18 per those update notes... That said the firing speed has been felt after 12.20... It's also roughly consistent with a 10% increase.

 

[Harlems369th]

Given some discussion with another member of the community, shout out to Mums, it's been brought to my attention that it's actually not the benefit from showcases impacting attack speed (nor should it). Instead, wording was changed, and I presume the math, in a library chapter for range siege attack speed. Attached are two pictures. One is from the unofficial wiki, but had information prior to the update. The other is the wording post update.

The result is that you get +97.5% attack speed on ranged siege from Space Age where you can add a second munition to artillery. 76.5% mongols+10% lib+11% munitions=97.5%

My questions to you and @BHGAustin are 1) if you can confirm this is the indeed what is causing the faster firing speed and 2) why this was updated and not included in patch notes? If it's in the patch notes and I missed it, my apologies can you point me to it?

It's the mongol coalition (speed) coupled with showcases (damage). The library text was updated only, and as nobodyknowsthetrouble points out it was noted in 12.18, no data was changed otherwise.