12.21 - Strikes Mulitplayer

[DocHolliday]

Ok, so that means top defensive players aren't allowed to hold ? Top offensive players are allowed to destroys Defenders ?

We Defenders have Top Museum/Councils/Setups too and spend 4 Eisenhower all the time, Bazooka Towers 24/7 active, best Layout.

You can destroy ANY defender, even without additional buildings. It might not be 1:30 but 2:30-3:00, but destroyed is destroyed.

So you think the times of destruction are justified ?

It's not my fault that you play badly or that 80% have no idea how to attack.

if a D base can hold stars against 98% of the attackers the whole game, it is a successful and top base right? then there is a 1-2% that can clear that base. I don't see where the problem is in all this . so from what you said, should a good defensive base not be cleared by anyone?

also i'm not one of those who can clear beastly bases with such ease. i don't have those skills. i'm just a decent, 9 year player of the game.

*fyi,i'm #1 and #20 from your current war.

 

[Rollin]

if a D base can hold stars against 98% of the attackers the whole game, it is a successful and top base right? then there is a 1-2% that can clear that base. I don't see where the problem is in all this . so from what you said, should a good defensive base not be cleared by anyone?

also i'm not one of those who can clear beastly bases with such ease. i don't have those skills. i'm just a decent, 9 year player of the game.

*fyi,i'm #1 and #20 from your current war.

Okay, so that means 2% can simply destroy any base in 1-2 minutes ? regardless of how much a defensive player spends or can do ? RIGHT ?

So the defensive players in the top 15 alliances just fucked up ?

I want to be able to hold 100% (not 98%) with the same effort as the offensive can destroy 100% of every base. The defense has the same right. "Should a good defensive base not be cleared by anyone?" Sry but not in fucking 1:30-2:00 without a scout, and not even have a chance to defend. So my answer is no

even cheated museums fall like nothing

 

[Seek]

I don’t care if it was the top .000001 % of defenders NOBODY should have game ruined due to no fault of their own. We are customers too.

I think it bad show of gamesmanship to say oh because your the top 1-2 % that you don’t get fair game play anymore. That is total bull doo doo .

Now to BHG did you forget that top 1-2 % not only represent top revenue players and most loyal players that you have completely ruined their game play their will to even really play. Sad these are folks that supported this game since the very start. The negativity these players experience not only spills here in forums but also discord alliance families and other platforms. Is this how you really want this game seen.

Now I will ask again when will BALANCE be addressed?

 

[King Crimson]

These are my def stats, i guess one of the highest in this game, and you as a defender can second that.
my base got destroyed by a bomber attacker in 2 min 42 sec.
this is a loud and clear example that no base can defend against a proper bomber attacker.
P.S: low life attackers, please do not comment here.

That doesn't really tell us anything about defending, bombers or rebalance. Are you also defeated in those times with other combos?
If yes, then maybe the rebalance is not about the bombers, maybe it's about the base.
If no, then it's about the bombers.

If we want a proper conversation about rebalance then we need to compare all the combos.

 

[Rollin]

That doesn't really tell us anything about defending, bombers or rebalance. Are you also defeated in those times with other combos?
If yes, then maybe the rebalance is not about the bombers, maybe it's about the base.
If no, then it's about the bombers.

If we want a proper conversation about rebalance then we need to compare all the combos.

What ?? Mortars are strong as hell too

We have people with 350-400% EDST, the defenders have in higher Museums DST like 150-160%? We see a spawntime about 30sec for 1 tank depot same at Bazooka Arsenal. Bunkers ? Dont spawn, only 1 wave and thats it. Garrison 40sek.

all in all the first wave comes out and maybe the second one and then its end

Mortars are de fastest tactic do u can play

which COULD cause problems against Mortars ? would be donated MRLs in CC

 

[King Crimson]

What ?? Mortars are strong as hell too

We have people with 350-400% EDST, the defenders have in higher Museums DST like 150-160%? We see a spawntime about 30sec for 1 tank depot same at Bazooka Arsenal. Bunkers ? Dont spawn, only 1 wave and thats it. Garrison 40sek.

all in all the first wave comes out and maybe the second one and then its end

Mortars are de fastest tactic do u can play

which COULD cause problems against Mortars ? would be donated MRLs in CC

Ok that's one other troop heard from. Any more?

ps: would be very interesting to see what happens if they got rid of the 85% cap ...

 

[Rollin]

Ok that's one other troop heard from. Any more?

ps: would be very interesting to see what happens if they got rid of the 85% cap ...

it would be worse than now

 

[Seek]

Ok that's one other troop heard from. Any more?

ps: would be very interesting to see what happens if they got rid of the 85% cap ...

Bomber with DPS 350 range HP 400 range Para with 259 DPS HP 250 range Mortos crazy HP DPS Range Seige crazy HP and DPS EDST +350 or more etc etc etc not to mention demo and commando take out all AA and silo.

Got defenders with +240 HP/DPS -150 to -200 DST, plus -85 invading bomber damage -70 DPS on invading barracks troops -70 invading mortars ( already exceeding cap) invading recon duration -45 etc etc etc and still get smoked under 2 minutes. Even if you have the best mythical artifacts 50+ war legendary artifacts and top defender museums are unable to defend.

So this is fair game play for players who have spent thousands of dollars on this game over the years and push hard building everything just to have everything turned into parking lot every war.

Top 1% strikers should not be able to smoke the top 1% defenders every war every hit that is not balance it should be a back and fourth where every star counts not seconds.

Just remember folks this is all headed your way sooner or later. Folks saying the elites don’t matter the game is fine stop trying to protect your easy wins and show some gamesmanship if I was top YouTube Striker I would be insulted by how one sided this game truly is.. Can’t post cool attack cause everyone know how easy it is.

 

[King Crimson]

it would be worse than now

Well then maybe they should apply the cap to both sides - but they won't, will they?

 

[Nikolay]

Those bases can be 5* (if they do) in those times only by the 0,1% of the attacking players with great skills, using a ton of premium.
That's not imbalance.
Imbalance would be if those bases 5 stared frequently by not good skilled strikers.

If you move out of top30 you will enjoy to watching ppl crashing on you base at every war.

Top alliances, have top players with top skills, top museums/councils/setups etc and just very few of them can bring those results.

Personally I have perfect museum, perfect council etc but I have not those skills. So I CAN'T bring results like those. Definitely.

It's all about skills. A museum or premium setup isn't enough to bring a victory. Especially against those bases . Need skills, great skills.

I really admire those rare and extremely skilled players even when it makes me feel like I'm far inferior in skills lol

Just my thoughts.

Then why should players who know how to play suffer because of players who don't try to learn and don't know how to play? This is their problem and the problem of the developers who don't release any guides, all the internal mechanics are hidden from the player, he can't understand how and what works. The only place where you can get such knowledge is the communities of players in various messengers and social networks. But not as many players as we would like are members and communicate with them. At this time, all the other players are in total ignorance and misunderstanding of the game world.
We spent our time studying it and instead of getting benefits, we are offered to return back to the alliances to lazy mediocrities. Is this your balance?
When 1 demolition can destroy several key buildings at once...
When an attacking player with the help of bombers without a coalition of Americans does not lose a single bomber per battle...

 

[Ezekiel]

u mean like that ??

Pitti 3D: 1:58
Ulrich 3D: 1:42
Kalti 3D: 1:35
Aend 3D: 1:51
Me: 2:03
Shebo 3D: 2:37

we have the best layout atm

all have the Myhtik glove and 3 even Abu Simbel Mythical, we have approximately 160% Adtd, 190% Adth, 170% DST only Museum (without showcase and Council) look at the times... under 2 minutes

Please stop discuss...

Momi’s top defender, a 613 ss defender with Filipino and good open layout just got cleared in 1:47 by us. Of course without a single scout or even plan. This was never supposed to happen in the past.
Some top 10 alliance defenders even went down in 1:15-1:30 these days.

 

[Super Val]

u mean like that ??

Pitti 3D: 1:58
Ulrich 3D: 1:42
Kalti 3D: 1:35
Aend 3D: 1:51
Me: 2:03
Shebo 3D: 2:37

we have the best layout atm

all have the Myhtik glove and 3 even Abu Simbel Mythical, we have approximately 160% Adtd, 190% Adth, 170% DST only Museum (without showcase and Council) look at the times... under 2 minutes

Please stop discuss...

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These are my stats, went down against bomber attacker in less than 3 min.
game is unplayable anymore for us defenders.
@Harlems369th your thoughts please.

That doesn't really tell us anything about defending, bombers or rebalance. Are you also defeated in those times with other combos?
If yes, then maybe the rebalance is not about the bombers, maybe it's about the base.
If no, then it's about the bombers.

If we want a proper conversation about rebalance then we need to compare all the combos.

my base can only be cleared when attacked by bombers With crazy stats (nowadays easily found). Doesn’t even need a skilled bombers attackers.
as for other combos, like Lego for example, my base can not be conquered. Probably like 1% of Lego players with high skills can 5 star my base.

 

[DocHolliday]

Then why should players who know how to play suffer because of players who don't try to learn and don't know how to play? This is their problem and the problem of the developers who don't release any guides, all the internal mechanics are hidden from the player, he can't understand how and what works. The only place where you can get such knowledge is the communities of players in various messengers and social networks. But not as many players as we would like are members and communicate with them. At this time, all the other players are in total ignorance and misunderstanding of the game world.
We spent our time studying it and instead of getting benefits, we are offered to return back to the alliances to lazy mediocrities. Is this your balance?
When 1 demolition can destroy several key buildings at once...
When an attacking player with the help of bombers without a coalition of Americans does not lose a single bomber per battle...

I am not talking about : Top strikers Vs shitty attackers from 1000 rank and below.
Im talking about those elite strikers who have Great skills and setups. They are very few, mostly in top 10 alliances.And most of them playing multiple accounts in multiple alliances.

 

[DocHolliday]

Momi’s top defender, a 613 ss defender with Filipino and good open layout just got cleared in 1:47 by us. Of course without a single scout or even plan. This was never supposed to happen in the past.
Some top 10 alliance defenders even went down in 1:15-1:30 these days.

Momineen attackers, had the same results/times against your defenders?

 

[Rollin]

Momineen attackers, had the same results/times against your defenders?

Ofc

They have destroy times about 1:15 and 2:15

@Ezekiel thx,for the confirmation

@Harlems369th thx for BHG „Balancing“, In the end, exactly what we said happened. BHG is incorrigible. Just like the museum artifacts bug... you don't believe the players, you prefer your "Data“

Have fun bhg, now u can balancing again

 

[Ezekiel]

Momineen attackers, had the same results/times against your defenders?

Yes. They cleared a 560 ss base in 1:49 with a 300 edst mortar account without premium TT or FSP/NHH. Which also shows mortars are OP as well now with the huge damage boost and edst from showcase. They cleared most of our defenders in 1:45-2:05. So do we. (1:35-2:08)
Many top 50 alliance even top 100 can perfect us now if they fight hard. That’s never happened in the past too.

 

[DocHolliday]

Yes. They cleared a 560 ss base in 1:49 with a 300 edst mortar account without premium TT or FSP/NHH. Which also shows mortars are OP as well now with the huge damage boost and edst from showcase. They cleared most of our defenders in 1:45-2:05. So do we. (1:35-2:08)

I see. Yeah Mortars become very stronger since 12.20 .

Have you ever seen those results/times coming from players/alliances out of top 10 ? Asking because we don't so far.

 

[DocHolliday]

Yes. They cleared a 560 ss base in 1:49 with a 300 edst mortar account without premium TT or FSP/NHH. Which also shows mortars are OP as well now with the huge damage boost and edst from showcase. They cleared most of our defenders in 1:45-2:05. So do we. (1:35-2:08)
Many top 50 alliance even top 100 can perfect us now if they fight hard. That’s never happened in the past too.

Thanks for the response

 

[Ezekiel]

I see. Yeah Mortars become very stronger since 12.20 .

Have you ever seen those results/times coming from players/alliances out of top 10 ?

Yes and for example, a rank 40 alliance just perfect one of my alliances last week. And I know many attackers in top 50 even 100 alliances are now capable of beating almost all defenders. They just don't wanna use buildings or premium TTs sometimes. The distinction between ‘top attackers’ and ‘good attackers’ is getting blurred these days. It won't be long before the distinction between ‘mediocre attackers’ and ‘good attackers’ becomes very blurry as well.

 

[DocHolliday]

Yes and for example, a rank 40 alliance just perfect one of my alliances last week. And I know many attackers in top 50 even 100 alliances are now capable of beating almost all defenders. They just don't wanna use buildings or premium TTs sometimes. The distinction between ‘top attackers’ and ‘good attackers’ is getting blurred these days. It won't be long before the distinction between ‘mediocre attackers’ and ‘good attackers’ becomes very blurry as well.

I see , well said, thank you