12.21 - Strikes Mulitplayer

[Abhorsen]

Hi Harlem,

Can you expand on what the gaining new levels of Manufactory munitions means?

Trying to read, but I didn’t see anything about how it worked. Do we get some sort of currency or ability to choose what munitions level up per strike battles?

If this is true. What is the new max level for munitions under this new system and will there be new unique abilities added to the last level of munitions?

Sorry I couldn’t find a post on the forums for this topic.

@Harlems369th

Thanks,
Abhorsen

 

[Harlems369th]

Hi Harlem,

Can you expand on what the gaining new levels of Manufactory munitions means?

Trying to read, but I didn’t see anything about how it worked. Do we get some sort of currency or ability to choose what munitions level up per strike battles?

If this is true. What is the new max level for munitions under this new system and will there be new unique abilities added to the last level of munitions?

Sorry I couldn’t find a post on the forums for this topic.

@Harlems369th

Thanks,
Abhorsen

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Notes don't go live on Forums until tomorrow morning.

But this ended up not making update 12.21, but basically, like building upgrades, we're adding more levels to munitions to add more benefits from them. Once that update is locked in you'll get more information. For now it's just on the horizon.

 

[Abhorsen]

Notes don't go live on Forums until tomorrow morning.

But this ended up not making update 12.21, but basically, like building upgrades, we're adding more levels to munitions to add more benefits from them. Once that update is locked in you'll get more information. For now it's just on the horizon.

Okay. Thanks for clearing that up, Harlem.

 

[Abhorsen]

Notes don't go live on Forums until tomorrow morning.

But this ended up not making update 12.21, but basically, like building upgrades, we're adding more levels to munitions to add more benefits from them. Once that update is locked in you'll get more information. For now it's just on the horizon.

Is this patch looking to arrive in the first week of September? If you don’t mind me asking.

@Harlems369th

 

[Harlems369th]

Is this patch looking to arrive in the first week of September? If you don’t mind me asking.

@Harlems369th

Hoping to start rolling out next week! (barring any funky business with app store approvals)

 

[Nikolay]

Hoping to start rolling out next week! (barring any funky business with app store approvals)

Thanks for the new interesting update.
But I still can't understand the prioritization of improvements. In the summer, the developers started rebalancing the troops, released several updates that were supposed to improve the balance, but in fact only worsened it. Now, instead of finally fixing the balance of the troops, we get another update, which, although it looks interesting, is still impossible to play in a world war because of the imbalance.

How long will this continue and are there any developments at all on rebalancing the troops?

Or do the developers continue to diligently monitor the current state of affairs, while blindly not seeing that there is an obvious imbalance?

 

[Seek]

Thanks for the new interesting update.
But I still can't understand the prioritization of improvements. In the summer, the developers started rebalancing the troops, released several updates that were supposed to improve the balance, but in fact only worsened it. Now, instead of finally fixing the balance of the troops, we get another update, which, although it looks interesting, is still impossible to play in a world war because of the imbalance.

How long will this continue and are there any developments at all on rebalancing the troops?

Or do the developers continue to diligently monitor the current state of affairs, while blindly not seeing that there is an obvious imbalance?

Nice post and I totally agree.

@engineers @cs team @BHGAustin@BHGSarah

How can you explain how strike fixes balance ? How the nerf for mongols/bomber/demo/ never made it to update ? Why should defenders like myself continue to play? When is balance going to be addressed ? This needed to happen before strike. Fix the broken balance so we have reason to spend and play

 

[Kzo-theKZO]

Nice post and I totally agree.

@engineers @cs team @BHGAustin@BHGSarah

How can you explain how strike fixes balance ? How the nerf for mongols/bomber/demo/ never made it to update ? Why should defenders like myself continue to play? When is balance going to be addressed ? This needed to happen before strike. Fix the broken balance so we have reason to spend and play

Are you never able to hold a star? Just curious if its different in the top where you play (we're probably in the top 100). i've made it so made base can't be rallied with detachments, and only can be demo-ed and it requires two demos. So they can only get 4 air defense and I spread out my air defense so they have to use at least 3 recons, preventing tupolevs. I don't always hold a star but I make it harder to get QV and sometimes they don't have time to finish. I know there's an imbalance, but you're not just throwing up your arms and giving up, right? Have you tried to tweak your layout to prevent detachments, tactical helicopters, etc. I'm honestly curious if we as a group can try to find a solution as opposed to waiting for a fix. And yes it does leave you open for Lego, but its the lesser of two evils right now.

 

[Spaceboy]

Hi..interesting..I have a full defense base, so any tricks to share with us, defenders? How to prevent bombers for example? I am Info level 401

 

[Seek]

Are you never able to hold a star? Just curious if its different in the top where you play (we're probably in the top 100). i've made it so made base can't be rallied with detachments, and only can be demo-ed and it requires two demos. So they can only get 4 air defense and I spread out my air defense so they have to use at least 3 recons, preventing tupolevs. I don't always hold a star but I make it harder to get QV and sometimes they don't have time to finish. I know there's an imbalance, but you're not just throwing up your arms and giving up, right? Have you tried to tweak your layout to prevent detachments, tactical helicopters, etc. I'm honestly curious if we as a group can try to find a solution as opposed to waiting for a fix. And yes it does leave you open for Lego, but its the lesser of two evils right now.

Have you ever tried real defense in a real alliance lol apparently not from what you wrote. So try to be clever replying to someone else.

Now when is Balance going be fixed anyone from from BHG

 

[I.D]

Are you never able to hold a star? Just curious if its different in the top where you play (we're probably in the top 100). i've made it so made base can't be rallied with detachments, and only can be demo-ed and it requires two demos. So they can only get 4 air defense and I spread out my air defense so they have to use at least 3 recons, preventing tupolevs. I don't always hold a star but I make it harder to get QV and sometimes they don't have time to finish. I know there's an imbalance, but you're not just throwing up your arms and giving up, right? Have you tried to tweak your layout to prevent detachments, tactical helicopters, etc. I'm honestly curious if we as a group can try to find a solution as opposed to waiting for a fix. And yes it does leave you open for Lego, but its the lesser of two evils right now.

sorry, i don't want to be rude but... there is no layout that can handle what is going on the last 2 months. nothing nada

 

[Kzo-theKZO]

Have you ever tried real defense in a real alliance lol apparently not from what you wrote. So try to be clever replying to someone else.

Now when is Balance going be fixed anyone from from BHG

You are such an elitist. You’re actually just a moron that complains non-stop. You insult everyone that has a different opinion than you. Its impossible to have a legitimate discussion with you. I’ve tried multiple times.

 

[Seek]

You are such an elitist. You’re actually just a moron that complains non-stop. You insult everyone that has a different opinion than you. Its impossible to have a legitimate discussion with you. I’ve tried multiple times.

Well then don’t try to talk to me. Should not have been snide. I would have responded little less harsh . Play victim if you want.

Facts are what you posted is not true there is no set up to stop Bomber in the game and at high level is not playable. This will spread to midlevels soon enough. Just shows in top alliances first. There is no fixing this by players talking about different ways to defend there is no defense capable of stopping Bombers Demo Commando/ Tactical Heli.

So again back to BHG when is balance going to be addressed no group of players should have game ruined due to in action by staff to fix this obvious problem.

 

[Rollin]

Are you never able to hold a star? Just curious if its different in the top where you play (we're probably in the top 100). i've made it so made base can't be rallied with detachments, and only can be demo-ed and it requires two demos. So they can only get 4 air defense and I spread out my air defense so they have to use at least 3 recons, preventing tupolevs. I don't always hold a star but I make it harder to get QV and sometimes they don't have time to finish. I know there's an imbalance, but you're not just throwing up your arms and giving up, right? Have you tried to tweak your layout to prevent detachments, tactical helicopters, etc. I'm honestly curious if we as a group can try to find a solution as opposed to waiting for a fix. And yes it does leave you open for Lego, but its the lesser of two evils right now.

u mean like that ??

Pitti 3D: 1:58
Ulrich 3D: 1:42
Kalti 3D: 1:35
Aend 3D: 1:51
Me: 2:03
Shebo 3D: 2:37

we have the best layout atm

all have the Myhtik glove and 3 even Abu Simbel Mythical, we have approximately 160% Adtd, 190% Adth, 170% DST only Museum (without showcase and Council) look at the times... under 2 minutes

Please stop discuss...

 

[nobodyknowsthetrouble]

Notes don't go live on Forums until tomorrow morning.

Who came up with this brilliant idea? What's the point of sharing information on the website, in RSS/Discord, on x, etc., but not creating a space for discussion?

 

[DocHolliday]

u mean like that ??

Pitti 3D: 1:58
Ulrich 3D: 1:42
Kalti 3D: 1:35
Aend 3D: 1:51
Me: 2:03
Shebo 3D: 2:37

we have the best layout atm

all have the Myhtik glove and 3 even Abu Simbel Mythical, we have approximately 160% Adtd, 190% Adth, 170% DST only Museum (without showcase and Council) look at the times... under 2 minutes

Please stop discuss...

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Those bases can be 5* (if they do) in those times only by the 0,1% of the attacking players with great skills, using a ton of premium.
That's not imbalance.
Imbalance would be if those bases 5 stared frequently by not good skilled strikers.

If you move out of top30 you will enjoy to watching ppl crashing on you base at every war.

Top alliances, have top players with top skills, top museums/councils/setups etc and just very few of them can bring those results.

Personally I have perfect museum, perfect council etc but I have not those skills. So I CAN'T bring results like those. Definitely.

It's all about skills. A museum or premium setup isn't enough to bring a victory. Especially against those bases . Need skills, great skills.

I really admire those rare and extremely skilled players even when it makes me feel like I'm far inferior in skills lol

Just my thoughts.

 

[Seek]

Those bases can be 5* (if they do) in those times only by the 0,1% of the attacking players with great skills, using a ton of premium.
That's not imbalance.
Imbalance would be if those bases 5 stared frequently by not good skilled strikers.

If you move out of top30 you will enjoy to watching ppl crashing on you base at every war.

Top alliances, have top players with top skills, top museums/councils/setups etc and just very few of them can bring those results.

Personally I have perfect museum, perfect council etc but I have not those skills. So I CAN'T bring results like those. Definitely.

It's all about skills. A museum or premium setup isn't enough to bring a victory. Especially against those bases . Need skills, great skills.

I really admire those rare and extremely skilled players even when it makes me feel like I'm far inferior in skills lol

Just my thoughts.

Yet another person saying it cool for top defenders to have their games ruined Humm. Why is that right? Hummm jealousy more than likely
It is not cool to ruin any group of players game play and punishing those who have put the most into this game is not cool.

If BHG made an update the made every player between the level of 280 to 400 get 5 star by everyone they face in less than 2 min those player would be upset correct? Well we are upset for that exact same reason.

So for all those that say it just the 1% stop hating it could be your group that gets game ruined next.

 

[Kzo-theKZO]

u mean like that ??

Pitti 3D: 1:58
Ulrich 3D: 1:42
Kalti 3D: 1:35
Aend 3D: 1:51
Me: 2:03
Shebo 3D: 2:37

we have the best layout atm

all have the Myhtik glove and 3 even Abu Simbel Mythical, we have approximately 160% Adtd, 190% Adth, 170% DST only Museum (without showcase and Council) look at the times... under 2 minutes

Please stop discuss...

Which is why my original statement started with: "Are you never able to hold a star? Just curious if its different in the top where you play (we're probably in the top 100)" Other alliances aren't running into this as much because we're not willing to use 3 recons, buy every mythical available, have 47 legendaries, buy night hangars, buy troop tactic buildings etc. So, since I'm not in the top ten like you two I was asking whether it was different. We run into bomber players with 250 + damage and about 200 hitpoints but can hold a star by using the techniques I was describing before. But the attackers are using maybe one recon, a few tupolevs and aren't dropping hangars. My original statement was sincere, and I was trying to offer suggestions.

 

[Super Val]

sorry, i don't want to be rude but... there is no layout that can handle what is going on the last 2 months. nothing nada

These are my def stats, i guess one of the highest in this game, and you as a defender can second that.
my base got destroyed by a bomber attacker in 2 min 42 sec.
this is a loud and clear example that no base can defend against a proper bomber attacker.
P.S: low life attackers, please do not comment here.

 

[Rollin]

Those bases can be 5* (if they do) in those times only by the 0,1% of the attacking players with great skills, using a ton of premium.
That's not imbalance.
Imbalance would be if those bases 5 stared frequently by not good skilled strikers.

If you move out of top30 you will enjoy to watching ppl crashing on you base at every war.

Top alliances, have top players with top skills, top museums/councils/setups etc and just very few of them can bring those results.

Personally I have perfect museum, perfect council etc but I have not those skills. So I CAN'T bring results like those. Definitely.

It's all about skills. A museum or premium setup isn't enough to bring a victory. Especially against those bases . Need skills, great skills.

I really admire those rare and extremely skilled players even when it makes me feel like I'm far inferior in skills lol

Just my thoughts.

Ok, so that means top defensive players aren't allowed to hold ? Top offensive players are allowed to destroys Defenders ?

We Defenders have Top Museum/Councils/Setups too and spend 4 Eisenhower all the time, Bazooka Towers 24/7 active, best Layout.

You can destroy ANY defender, even ! without additional buildings ! It might not be 1:30 but 2:30-3:00, but destroyed is destroyed, you need 2 Recons, 2 Tubs thats it

So you think the times of destruction are justified ?

It's not my fault that you play badly or that 80% have no idea how to attack.